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SJSinNYC
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GAW she is trying to prove that Rabbonim are never wrong.

You are wrong about my mothers Rav – it was a matter of philisophical differences relating to handling the situation and he was wrong. You can accept it or not, but he was wrong. It doesnt mean he is a bad Rav, just that he gave one bad piece of advice.

I am not quite sure what you mean by Rabbonim determine reality – if they did, wouldnt they create a system where all men could sit and learn Torah and all women could stay home and raise their kids? That is NOT a reality they can create. That is a reality that HASHEM can create. Rabbonim are human beings and while they are closer to Hashem than we are, they are still human and make mistakes. The Torah tells us this!

You are also confusing a HALACHIC PSAK and ADVICE/EITZAH. Does squeak sound like someone who is anti-Torah or rabbonim? He agrees that advice DOES NOT HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED.

Lets look at this simple example: You hear that your Rabbi makes the best cholent. You ask him for advice and he tells you he recommends trying a red onion and adding that to your cholent. You try it but decide that you like your version (frying a vidalia onion) better because its sweeter. You approach your Rabbi and ask him respectfully if he ever thought of using a vidalia onion instead of a red onion. He said he tried it but it made the cholent too sweet. How would you keep making your cholent now?

Silly example, sure. But where do you draw the line with advice that has to be followed? I do it at a HALACHIC PSAK – that needs to be followed. Advice does not.

Now lets try another logic argument:

1) All human beings are flawed (Only Hashem is perfect)

2) All rabbonim are human

If 1 and 2 are correct, then all rabbonim are flawed. Now, granted they have LESS flaws than most of us and are much closer to Hashem than most of us, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO NOT MAKE MISTAKES.

Is there a reason you are reluctant to discuss this with your Rabbi?

You can have the last word when you PROVE ME WRONG or I get bored of this. The latter is more likely as I am already losing interest.