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SJSinNYC
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The Big One – are you a man? Do you have any idea how hard it is to be pregnant? I was vomitting for the first 30 weeks of my pregnancy. So yes, I understand questioning how it must feel to be pregnant all the time. Post Partum Depression is really high nowadays – many women go untreated. Getting pregnant again is even worse for PPD because you cannot take drugs to help you. Unfortunately, most people do not take PPD seriously.

birth control borders on murder. the blood of the unborn cries out. all their future generations that were stopped cold by a would be parent who thought they are smarter than G-d.

Do you think you are smarter than the many rabbonim who allow birth control? (obviously the rabbonim decide on the situation) Doesnt the fetus not become a “halachic human” until 30 days? (or is it 40?) So how would birth control be considered bordering on murder? Unless you consider every month that a women doesnt get pregnant as if she (and her body) killed a life?

Will hill, there is a drastic difference between birth control and abortion. Birth control prevents a possible life, abortion KILLS a life. There are even situations where an abortion is allowed/required according to halacha. The slippery slope argument is very dangerous because I could make that argument with almost everything that is allowed by halacha. There is a reason we have our rabbonim who pasken for us rather than go by your logic.

If a 9, 10, or 11 year old knows that when he or she comes home from school he or she will have to watch the little kids for an hour before doing homework, what is wrong with that? That’s not forcing them to be adults, that’s barely asking anything! Point to a kid who has to do that AND give the kids baths, AND put them to sleep, AND make supper for the family AND make lunches for everyone to take the next morning AND help all the kids get dressed and I will agree that the child is being abused. But having a DEFINED responsibility to younger siblings is NOT abuse and is one of many VERY GOOD ways to give a child responsibilies (if he or she can handle it physically).

Squeak, I know plenty of families where the latter is the norm. There is a big difference between helping out, and shouldering major responsibility. My cousin’s daughter is allowed to go away once a year for shabbos because her mother just cannot spare her help. She is the oldest of 10 (followed by 8 boys and then a girl) and has major responsibility. My step-neice is the oldest of 9 and has a ton of responsibility. She is in seminary this year and told me she is never going back home (to live) because of the burden she has to bear. My cousin was barely allowed to come over and play (or vice versa) because she was watching her siblings. From a young age, she also helped her parents run their store from their house.