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rabbiofberlin
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WOW ! I usually start my dat ith a peek at YWN and allow myself some time later to make some comments…Well, I must say that I was totally blindsied by the comments of notpashut….And I feel the duty to answer him now.

What transpires time and time again from his words is what has been discussed numerous times on other postings and, by osmosis, in this posting.

NO ONE, absolutely NO ONE ever is “mevazeh gedolim’ as he writes. As a matter of fact, every poster, be he from YU, be he pro-zionist, be he a chabdnik, EVERY poster has the highest respect for every godol, regardless of his theological allegiance. Even the late Satmarer rebbe zz’l and Rav Shach zz’l are treated respectfully by all posters.

I dont’ want to point fingers here but this has not been the case by the “other” side towards the “other’ gedolim, but this is nto the purpose of this answer.

What notpashut (and others holding like him) want US and everyone else, is to ACCEPT unconditionally the view and the Psakim of HIS gedolim. this is the specter of immutable “daas torah’ again, which cannot be challenged.

The view of HIS gedolim are the right ones and no one should dare to think differently.

As he writes ; “what truly disgusts me is….the gedolim are wrong”.

Well, you know what, gedolim CAN be wrong and HAVE been wrong. You insisnt that the Lubavitcher rebbe zz’l is WRONG and Rav kook zz’l is WRONG, so why can’t I (and others) think that Rav Elyahsiv is WRONG?

What makes Rav Elyashiv shelita infallible?

Sorry, I cannot accept this view of “daas torah’ and yiddihskeit.

WHY this spills into the area of ‘ahavas yisroel’ is when you see, facts in hand, that some gedolim are NOT responsive to major Jewish crises that affect thousands and thoushand of Yidden.

Do you have ANY idea what kullos Poskim used after the Holocaust to be ‘mattir’ agunos?They used every kulloh in the book to allow women to remarry because it was a major Jewish crisis.

WHY can’t Poskim TODAY use similar kullos to free the agunos of today, held captive by their evil husbands? There are plenty of ways of doing this but the mainstream Poskim have generally turned a blind eye to this crisis. NOw, this, to me, is a lack of ahavas ysroel.

When a Bais Din “passels” THOUSANDS of real geirim without even considering what it means to thousands of families, NOW that is a lack of ahavas ysroel. (Ran Sherman is NOT a MIZRACHI rav,btw)

When illustrious Poskim allow an eiruv to be built in Boro park, it would behoove the opponents to respect the other view and, at the minimum, not cast any chilul shabbos aspersions on the other side. Now that is a lack of ahavas ysroel.

So, please stop lecturing us about the infallibility of gedolim and use some humility in respecting the other view as a valid one. Thye just, just may be right.