gavra_at_work: i would like to add to your “You are going to tell me the “Roshei Yeshiva” said we should expand Kollelim”. there is a simple reason that in europe for th emost part, roshei yeshivos and rabbonim were mutualy exclusive. because teh ball habatim needed a rov who had a sense of reality. roshei yeshivos for the most part live in the fantasy world of yeshiva (not a bad one, so no smashing me for saying such a thing). their job is to promote their yeshiva, and rightfully so. but reality is that econimic systems rely on real world rules, not ones made up in a yeshiva office. supply and demand doesn’t end at the yeshiva doors. when there is more money that needs to go out in the form of payroll to kollel yungerleit then there is money coming in through the form of donations, then there is a economic meltdown of kollel economic system. the only way to correct this is th esame that any company corrects this, slim down the workforce, or telling the weaker of the learners, say the bottom 50% to go out to the workforce. the problem is the yeshivos are only now going to be forced to do this in the economic turndown. when these kollel yungerleit, with zero work experience, are going to now go out to find a parnassah, it will be alot harder. had the yeshivos been responsible, as they should have been, they would have slowly released these men into the real world, so that their local economies could slowy integrate them into jobs during growth years. as t hepeople supplying th efunds to these yeshvos, we absolutely have a right to say how the money gets spent. we also have the right to say that alot of them are there for the sole purpose of not wanting to go work. i have plenty of friends who are in the kollel life because they want to take easy street, and have their in laws supporting them. for a few years they say. the whole notion of learning a few years is silly. either you will make it you life, or you wont. if you are not, get to the workplace asap.
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