I will refer in some way to cantoresq. words as arguing the point I have been making for a while. Tanur achcnoi (which I mwentioned earlier) is a prime example of that. The chachomim actually understood that R”eliezer was right in his arguments but Torah is not ordained from heaven, it is decided here.
To true Honesty…I’d have a lot more respect for your words if you would not have intimated a number of times that I (and my views) are borderline heretic. I ignored it the first time around but I will not ignore it this time.
What do you know about me? What do you know about my background, Torah views in general and what makes you so sure what I would have done in other circumstances? And what do you know which Gedolim I follow?
I am saying all this because your snide remarks about me is symptomatic of the arguments that you are displaying in this posting. For you, it is ‘daas torah’ and therefore one cannot argue with it ! Any saying by one of YOUR gedolim becomes “halocho lemoshe misinai” and anyone who dares question THEIR views is, at the minimum, wrong and, as you intimate, a kofer.
THAT is EXACTLY what this whole assertion of “daas torah” has brought us to!
In accepting that concept, there is no room for any other view except for YOUR gedolim! Anyone who questions ANYTHING of YOUR gedolim will be castigated as an ‘apikoros”.
Well,I am not playing your game. I do NOT have to accept YOUR gedolim’s words on anything, actually. I have the right to choose my own Posek and my own “Moreh derech”.
If this does not square with yoru views, sorry.
Until you can accept ME as someone who has the same interest in the advancement of Torah and yiddshkeit as you, I will not engage in futile discussions.
“derech eretz kodmo letorah”