jphone,
Thank you! While I’m sure not too many people will bother reading my looooong comment, hopefully yours they will and you really worded it well! It is horrible that frum yidden associate bad behavior to being FRUM. ich! If you believe in the Torah, how can you believe that people who learn it can be worse off than goyim!
My grandfather always says that the lowest yid is better than the best goy!