to will hill, you write that the quote by the chofetz chaim (equating zionism to amalek)was well known. Well known by whom? I have never heard of it and why should I beleive you about this? Also, how old was the chofetz chaim when he said it? After all, most of your colleagues here have said that the rebbe zz’l was senile the last twenty- five years of his life- (see matisjohu) maybe the chofets chaim was senile too? Yeah-yeah-you are going to accuse me of “zilzul rabbonim” but this is what you have done throughout this whole posting on the rebbe zz’l and other Gedolim.
Secondly, you bring down two quotes from the chofets chaim al hatorah. First, I have to see it in the original -in loshon kodesh- because I do not believe for one moment that the chofets chaim changed the meaning of the word “letefilah, ledoron ULEMICHOMO” to mean that ‘lemilchomo’ means fleeing. Not only is it impossible to condone this as a Pshat but ,if you read the whole Parsha there, it is obvious that yaakov was prepared for real war.
Concerning your other long quote, you (and all the other detractors) keep on harping on the godlessness of Zionism,etc….Never ,for one moment, do you address the religious aspect of Zionism, namely the shittah of the Netzic (before Zionism), Rav Kook and a multitude of other Gedolim. Obviously, you don’t want to do this because then you won’t have whom to beat with a stick,as it is clear that this shittah is total accord with halacha and Poskim and it is being hugely succesfull.
But you and your cohorts are so invested in your own prejudices that you have no choice but to be totally blind to reality and turn a blind eye to the possibility of six million Yidden perishing to justify your own false gods. SAD .
and to chuck schwab- your asinine comments don’t merit a reply but I suggest you go to your gemach and borrow money for a plane trip to Eretz Yisroel. Take a good look around you when you are there and tell me, on your return, about the “death throes of Zionism”
You see, there is the real world of Jerushalaim and Malchei yisroel and bnai berak and Ponevitz and kiryat vishnitz and belz and ashdod and Seret vishnitz….and a million other thriving frum communities and then, there is your world, filled with bitterness and jealousy, awash with anger and denial, truly a world in your own disutrbed mind, that has absolutely no connection to the real world.
And your quote ‘about allowing Hashem to do what He will do”. This smacks so much of the Holocaust that I find it vile and despicable. And you and your cohorts accuse Kastner of selling out Hungarian jewry? You are selling out six million jews in our eretz hakdosha with your veiled comments. Beware of what you are saying….you are treading o nthin ground…….