Jent 1150, do you know even know what you are talkig about? It is absolutely clear from Parshat Mishpatim and the mishnah in taharos(i think) that it is never murder until the bay is born. That is AN ABSOLUTE FACT. So, the fetus is not considered a person until it shows its head otuside the womb. (check your mishnayos and halacha).Now, this is not to say that abortion,at any time, is a simple matter. It is not. But it can never be called murder. Contraception is allowed al pi halacha.Check your Parshyot and your gemoros. They used “kos shel ikrin” quite rotuinely and ,of course, check the gemoro in jevomos, “sholsh noshim meshamshos bemoch”. There is a nmachlokes if it means that they CAN or they SHOULD. jent 1150, in the past, you have shown that you know your sources. Go and check them and I’d love to see your report AFTER you have seen these sources. Gut shabbos.
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