glatta-kup: All I can say is, “Al Titzdak Harbei.” Everyone has their own way to be Mekadeish HaShabbos, and unless all YOU do on Shabbos is learn and daven, and eat just a bit more than bread and water L’Kavod Shabbos, then how are YOU being MeKadeish Shabbos? Do you nap? What a waste of this holy day? You should be learning at least 24 of the 26 or so hours that we have Shabbos Kodesh!!
Do you mean to tell me that because I drink a bit more than I usually do for a few minutes that I’m not at all being MeKadeish Shabbos?!
“Holier than thou” people are usually covering up their own guilty shortcomings.
I very carefully stated that I don’t ever approve of real Shikrus, but a bit more than usual, in my mind, is a healthy outlet. Remember, I only said, “a bit more than usual.” Losing control, and staggering around on unsteady legs means a person drank more than they should have. If they don’t know their own limits and can’t control themselves, then I agree they shouldn’t start.