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I’d like some suggestions as to some places to find affordable lower cost homes in a Jewish community with good Orthodox/Modern Orthodox shuls and reasonable weather. I’m sick of cold and endless snow. A plus is a walkable community and/or some mass transit. I’m middle-aged with a young-adult son so an active young-adult community would be welcome for him.
Arad , Israel
cheap , warm and has decent buses
ZD – good idea. Actually any place in Eretz Yisrael is relatively warm in the winter. And there are a lot of other places in EY that would probably be better socially than Arad.
It’s been pretty warm where I live. I didn’t even need a coat for most of last week.
And if you move to E”Y, you also have the merit of living in Israel. And if you’re moving already, why not just move here?
Maybe Southeast?
Georgia or Florida
Maybe Lakewood.
It’s more affordable than Brooklyn. And I suppose a drop warmer, if a bit to the south…
Be’er Sheva.
“And I suppose a drop warmer, if a bit to the south..”
Lakewood can be freezing in the winter. But the people are very warm. I guess that’s what you meant.
lakewood pricing has gone way up high. try better cleveland or detroit. much more friendly & quiet & roomy. lakewood has become Brooklyn NJ
Hannah, if you’re fine with Modern Orthodox then there are a lot of options in the south. Richmond VA, Norfolk VA, Charleston SC, Atlanta GA.
She said she wants a place where there’s a community for her young-adult-son. I would think that VA, GA, & SC would probably be really bad ideas for him.
Florida might be a bit better, but I imagine it’s also pretty bad, although I could be wrong, since I don’t really know what it’s like there.
What about LA? I don’t know much about the community there, but I would imagine there are some young adults there.
I still think Israel is your best bet. The weather is great, and there are plenty of young adults here (well at least compared to Virginia and Atlanta, I think).
Wouldn’t pretty much any frum community, other than a retirement community, have young adults?
Clearly the OP wasn’t asking for pro-aliyah posters to bombard him/her with suggestions of Israel. LA is a decent suggestion. There are MO communities in all of the places I mentioned, probably all containing young people with the possible exception of SC.
If you’re only looking at communities beyond MO, then yes, Florida, LA, and also Texas would be likely the only options.
Florida is cheaper than LA and there are more jews in the South Florida area than in the LA area
Maybe Dallas? I’ve heard good things.
Joseph nope. Some communities don’t have young adults.
What’s Texas like? Aren’t the summers over 100 degrees and somewhat expensive for AC electricity?
lb, are the young adults expelled from such communities?
Joseph, baruch Hashem everyone is welcome.
If the young adult is in shidduchim then it’s especially challenging.
Sometimes one is advised to visit a younger community, but the older community shows love for one who stays.
At least that’s what I’ve seen. Cannot speak for everyone.
NC, wow I felt like maybe the OP felt pressured to make aliyah or feel guilty about not making it with all of these posts mentioning Israel. Glad that you said something.
It’s hard, imho, to ask for genuine help here and having someone throw “move to EY” as the end-all be-all solution.
Just because EY is the place for Klal Yisroel doesn’t mean that Hashem doesn’t have a reason for someone to be living chul right now.
So while one might mean well, sometimes, imho, it sounds like deflecting the OP’s question when posters jump in with EY EY EY locations.
Thank you
Well, yes, it gets over 100 degrees in Texas fairly often in the summer, but everyone has very good AC, and you can still spend a lot of time outside in the summer, especially in the shade, if you plan and dress accordingly.
Florida has tons of young adults in Miami and the surrounding cities.
So many young New Yorkers move to South Florida, and also Israelis.
I’ve visited South Florida and it’s very very Jewish in some parts — With Hatzloahs on the street corners, rows of shuls and Hebrew storefronts, and totally tznius and religiously dressed women and men on the sidewalks going about their daily lives — plus there are many kosher restaurants.
Florida’s cost of living is also dramatically more reasonable than NY.
Well, when it comes to young adults, especially if still single, out of town communities don’t seem to have enough “going on” and therefore the young adult aged people aren’t really there…
I agree with Lilmod. You will also be doing a mitzva which according to Ramban is the pre-requisite for true Torah observance. Modi’in might be a good place as it has modern Orthodox and Chardal communities as well as many English speakers, is not expensive and is almost directly between Yerushalayim and Tel Aviv, which means that you can commute to work in either city. In addition, the weather there is very mild all year .
HannahK. If you would relocate to England. Manchester has all those things. It is wet though, but no snow like New York, doesn’t get stiflingly hot like New York or Florida. Very warm people and every type of community you would want.
Joseph, I’m assuming that she means single adults, since her son lives with her. And yeah, singles are expelled from most communities….
j/k – they are not expelled, but they either are nonexistent, or they move out (usually to NY), or they lay low.
There are few communities with single adults. It’s also not such a good idea for a single to move too far from the NY area if he’s dating. Unless possibly if they find another area that has a lot of singles. But even then, it’s probably not such a good idea in general, since you really are limiting yourself.
The only place I can think of in the US outside of NY that might have a lot of singles is Baltimore. I don’t know what the weather is like there, but I would imagine that it’s not so different from New York.
While I put myself in the Zionist camp, my suggestion of Arad had nothing to do with Zionism. The OP wanted a cheap place to live that is warm.
Most of the places where jews live is expensive and the warm ones arent any cheaper
Arad is cheap and warm, there is nothing compatible to it anywhere in the US
So I gather pretty much all frum single Americans migrate to the NY, Lakewood, Monsey Trifecta.
What’s Trifecta?
Few go to Lakewood. And the community is not old enough to have very many “older singles” of its own, although at this point, there probably are several singles in their 20’s from Lakewood families. The few “older singles” that exist are scatterred and don’t really have any kind of community to my knowledge.
I don’t know about Monsey, I would guess that it has more singles than Lakewood, but probably not too many either, and whatever singles they have are probably also scatterred and don’t have a community.
The main places that singles in the US live (and have some kind of community/interaction with other singles) are Brooklyn and the Upper West Side. After that, there’s Passaic, Queens, and Washington Heights.
In just about every other part of the US(to my knowledge), there are few older singles, and they don’t have much in the way of a community.
LuL:
A trifecta is a bet in which the person betting forecasts the first three finishers in a race in the correct order. Not sure why that is associated with Monsey. Maybe it’s meant to say money. Not sure why that would be associated with Frum singles. Unless it’s coz they have more spare money than married people. (Don’t jump on me, this is a joke – thanks) But, frum people generally don’t bet.
Geordie – I guess he meant that those three places (NY, Monsey, and Lakewood) are the three finishers in the competition. Although I thought Monsey was part of NY, and Lakewood is a safek.
It’s good you warned me not to jump on you…. I probably would have if you hadn’t warned me 🙂
Trifecta sounds like a popular parasite treatment
“It’s good you warned me not to jump on you…. I probably would have if you hadn’t warned me :)”
The result of years of experience on these boards – or possibly… ‘bored’s.
If you’re looking for really warm, think about Phoenix, Arizona. It gets very, very hot for about four months. Really hot! It may be a dry heat but it’s HOT! Day after day, month after month, doesn’t even cool off at night. With that in mind, from mid October through May or June, it’s beautiful, sunny and warm. Phoenix is a large city, that covers a lot of area, things are very spread out. You won’t feel closed in.It’s scenic, with mountains right in the middle of the city. Beautiful parks also. Housing is much cheaper than NY, and you get more for your money, and taxes are much lower.
In north central Phoenix is the Jewish community. Within the area are six orthodox shuls, two are Bucharian shuls. In north Phoenix, there is another Bucharian community, and housing is a bit cheaper. Just outside the main community is the Chabad of Phoenix. There are Chabad houses throughout metropolitan Phoenix.There are two day schools, a boys high school, and a girls high school. Two pizza shops, a number of restaurants, and kosher food is readily available, including cholov yisroel.
In nearby Scottsdale , there is smaller Jewish community. There’s a Chabad, an Ashkenazi shul- Aish HaTorah, and a Sephardi shul. Housing prices are higher than Phoenix. There a a number of restaurants, but the schools are all in Phoenix, at present no school bus service is available.
Geordie -lol.
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