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This Qiryat/Kiryat city has English signs in Israel.
Seriously less than a mile from the Qiryat sign is a Kiryat sign.
On Facebook, you can Check-In to either the Qiryat ___ or Kiryat ___. I’ve used both. However, the Qiryat city has an Default pic for the city, and looks more official.
Then again, there are webpages for this city using both spellings.
When I send mail to Israel, I write the address in English. Which one is preferable please?
Thank you!
Try google Maps to see how the address shows up.
Both are valid. NB. If it’s Kiryat/Qiryat Sefer, the city’s official name is Modi’in Illit.
Using Q instead of K is more typically done by academic-types that feel compelled to stand out differently than the average man, thinking it enhances their appearance as an educated fellow.
or maybe it’s more correct and that’s why they do it.
I recall a story in “My uncle, the Netziv” about how someone (maybe the Netziv?) corrected someone (probably the Torah Temima) for the way he addressed a letter. Even though it was not technically correct, it was clear what he meant and it would have gotten there anyways, but the Netziv (if that’s who it was) felt that it is important to do things correctly.
Waiting now for Joseph to respond that it was put in “cheirem”. My response to that is that I don’t think it’s relevant since I don’t think that story is the reason it was put in cheirem.
Why not write the address in Hebrew? As long as you write “Israel” in English, it will get where it needs to go.
lilmod, what was put in cherem?
The book, “My uncle the Netziv” was supposedly put in Cherem. I’m not sure what that means though or who put it in cherem. That was just what I remember hearing when it first came out in approximately 1988.
It’s a translation of a Sefer by the Torah Temima, so it can’t really be problematic. I don’t know why it was put in cherem.
What if at some point, G-d forbid, Israel is scratched out or rubbed off or the packaging gets damaged, the rest of the address could look like chicken scratch to someone who doesn’t read Hebrew. Imho, chas v’shalom it could be more likely to be tossed to the side.
What if at some point, the address could look like chicken scratch to some Israeli who doesn’t read English. Imho, especially in the Israeli Postal system, it could be more likely to be tossed to the side.
The Q comes from the old British translation of the language and, to me, it makes me think of Arabic, even though there is no obvious connection. The more modern translations are with a K. I think if you spell it Kiryat …., it will get to where you want. Remember, the US Post Office people are going to simply place it in a bag of mail that is going to Israel, no matter what the street address that is on it. Only once it gets here will the Israel Post staff sort it according to the city and street. If your envelope gets damaged to the point that a whole word gets rubbed off while in transit with the USPS, then you should probably find a different way to get your mail places. You could write the letters ISRAEL in very large letters and the Hebrew ones in a regular size.
I assure you the Israel Postal Service can read English better than the US PS or Royal Mail can read Hebrew. I would write everything in English with Kiryat/Qiryat/Qiriat being all equally valid spellings. Also, put Israel in large on the last line to be doubly sure.
“but if someone at the PO doesn’t know, they can Google it with the zip code and get it in Hebrew or English” – I can’t imagine they sit there looking up zip codes on google.
(Don’t do what a friend of mine did once and put ‘Zionist Occupied Palestine’ as the country.)
LB,
On you post from two weeks ago; Yes, surprisingly, it did.
I have recently come across Israel Post’s website. If you google “???? ????? ???? ???? ????? ?????” you can search for any Postal code in Israel, and correct address format. I know it’s too late for you, but hopefully it will help someone else.
Two points:
Israel zip codes are ok from the UK where post codes are alpha numeric
I love America, where Presidents and the Postal service are not afraid to talk about G-D.
“where Presidents and the Postal service are not afraid to talk about G-D. “
Was that the postal service’s words or LB’s rephrasing?
You seem to be underrating the Israeli postal service. I am sure either address would work, especially if they use a zip-code-like system, which they do.
But please help me: Kew Gardens or Cue Gardens. Or Q Gardens. Far Rockaway or Farak Away.
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