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January 6, 2017 4:08 am at 4:08 am #618971LightbriteParticipant
When enough time passes, I get Joseph, Jacob, and Issac confused.
I know that Jacob’s name refers to his heel. And he has one sibling, Esav.
I mix up his father though. I keep thinking that Jacob’s father is Joseph when I think of the story where Joseph touches the fur that Jacob puts on his arm and thinks it’s Esav’s arm instead.
Isaac is Abraham’s son at the altar.
So the lineage goes from Isaac, then Jacob, to Joseph.
Please: What’s a good pneumonic device to remember Joseph, Jacob, & Isaac’s relation, as well as their wives?
Thank you!
BTW: Who’s after Joseph? Don’t all the brothers have their tribes from there?
January 6, 2017 4:44 am at 4:44 am #1207699Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantJust remember the song, “I am Yosef, is my father still alive?” (It’s still running through my head).
That’s what Yosef said to his brothers when he revealed himself to them. And you can remember this now, thanks to my thread!
January 6, 2017 5:53 am at 5:53 am #1207700yehudayonaParticipantLightbrite, you need a good mnemonic for remembering how to spell mnemonic.
Pneumonic: of, relating to, or affecting the lungs, as in pneumonic plague, which is more virulent than bubonic plague.
January 6, 2017 9:06 am at 9:06 am #1207701WinnieThePoohParticipantIt might help to think about their titles and their real Hebrew names:
Avraham, Yitzchak and Yaakov are called “Avinu”, our father, as in Avraham Avinu, since they are the 3 forefathers. It is their names that we say in davening “G-d of our fathers, Avraham, Yitzchak and Yaakov.”
Yosef is called Yosef Hatzaddik, the righteous, since he overcame his Evil Inclination when in an immoral environment (Potiphar’s house in Egypt).
Yosef had 2 sons, Menashe and Efraim, born in Egypt. They actually took over his place as one of the 12 tribes- his tribe was split into 2, for example, for purposes of inheriting portions in the Land of Israel (each tribe’s descendants got their own portion as part of that tribe, as did Efraim and Menashe.) The names of all the descendants of the original 12 sons as they go to Egypt is listed in this week’s Parsha, each extended family is recognized as a tribe of the same name as the son of Yaakov from which they descend.
It is a great time now to catch up on these facts, since the recent and coming parshiyot that we read each shabbos in shul deal with Yosef and his brothers and sons.
January 6, 2017 4:53 pm at 4:53 pm #1207702catch yourselfParticipantAlphabetical order.
Isaac
Jacob
Joseph
January 6, 2017 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #1207703JosephParticipantWhy am I always put last?
January 6, 2017 8:22 pm at 8:22 pm #1207704yehudayonaParticipantJoseph, think of poor Zevulun.
January 7, 2017 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm #1207705Geordie613Participantcatch yourself,
Abraham
Isaac
Jacob
Joseph
January 7, 2017 11:59 pm at 11:59 pm #1207706yytzParticipantNot really a mnemonic, but here’s one way to think about it. The avos are in the order in the first line of the first bracha of the Shemonei Esrei – -Elokei Avraham, Elokei Yitzhak, Elokei Yaakov. Yaakov fights with an angel and then is renamed Israel, or he who fights with God. Yaakov/Israel is synonymous with the Jewish people because his children were each the head of one of the 12 tribes (except for his son Yosef, whose two children each were head of their own tribe.) Does that help at all! Hatzlacha!
January 8, 2017 12:13 am at 12:13 am #1207707LightbriteParticipantI think it’s easier in Hebrew, or at least with Hebrew first.
Abraham and Sarah
Sarah laughed inside —> Yitzchak, yitzchak
Yitzchak [and Rivka (because Jacob married Rachel which is easy to remember because he also married Leah first)]
Yaakov and Rachel have Yosef —> yosef who added to their lives, esp for Rachel after a period of infertility
…It’s also nice to think that the last patriarch added to our lives as well
January 8, 2017 12:29 am at 12:29 am #1207708LightbriteParticipantJoseph: Last but not least.
Hashem created the plants and animals first in order to prepare the space for man to enter. Afterward, before Shabbos, he created man.
Now you can say that Abraham and Yaakov are very different than plants and animals. True. Maybe being Yosef is symbolic of the additional spiritual elements embodied and passed on to the generations.
January 8, 2017 3:52 am at 3:52 am #1207709WinnieThePoohParticipantYosef is not one of the patriarchs, Avos. There are only 3- Avraham, Yitzchak and Yaakov.
It is actually interesting, because despite Yaakov’s preference of Yosef over his brothers, and giving him the firstborn’s right to a double portion (his tribe being split into 2 and getting 2 portions in the Land of Israel), aftwerwards, other shevatim become more prominent- for example, Levi as the leaders in Egypt after the passing of Yaakov’s 12 sons, culminating of course in Moshe and Aron, and kehuna. And then Yehuda, the tribe of royalty, and of course, Mashiach. They are represented in the ushpizin too- as Moshe, Aron and Dovid.
January 8, 2017 4:08 am at 4:08 am #1207710LightbriteParticipantWTP thank you for correcting me here!
That makes me happy because I Googled this earlier to get it right and felt bad for Benjamin, not being a patriarch.
See.. I added another Y. Okay so it’s AYY. Avraham. Yitzhak. And Yaakov.
Oh and hello no wonder there are four matriarchs because Yaakov married two.
Thank you this is helping me organize it.
January 8, 2017 5:02 am at 5:02 am #1207711WinnieThePoohParticipantDo you know the song we sing at the end of the seder- Echud Mi Yodea (Who knows one)?
here is a popular kids’ version/translation of the original (Uncle Moishy I think?)
“Who knows 4? I know 4? 4 are the mothers and 3 are the fathers and 2 are the luchos that Moshe brought..and One is Hashem, one is Hashem, one is Hashemmmm… in the Heavens and the Earth…ooh, ah, ooh ooh ah…”
January 8, 2017 6:52 am at 6:52 am #1207712LightbriteParticipantWTP: My mom used to sing that!
Awww just brought back sweet memories! !! 🙂
Thank you thank you
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