Can you comfort me

I’m sorry you’re in pain, but your post sounds incredibly haughty and insensitive.

Just some quotes from your post to support my statement:

“the entire tragedy the occurred R”L could have been avoided if the brother who it occurred to would have listened to his rav & just done teshuva” (Maybe you should have listened to your Rav and done Teshuva)

“May you one day reach this high level” (I shouldn’t have to explain what’s wrong with this)

“To help you understand the high level so you should trust me. Moshe rabbeinu…Yirmiyahu hanavi…” (Comparing yourself with Moshe Rabeinu and Yirmiyahu HaNavi)

Torah teaches us that even when we are in aveilus for our PARENTS for a full year, there is a limit to the aveilus. There is a Shiva period; there is a Shloshim period, followed by 10 more months of saying Kaddish, and then the final month of aveilus for them. For non-parental losses, the halachic period ends with the Shloshim. Of course the feelings of aveilus don’t go away so easily, but we are forced back into life. If we cannot cope, we need help.

This post sounds like it was written for effect. If not, if the poster genuinely has these feelings, I urge him/her to seek immediate counseling, with a Rov or another professonal, to help deal with an inappropriate emotional response.

We can mourn the Beis Hamikdash for over 2,000 years. We are not supposed to be in mourning yomam valeila for people, and certainly not ewverytime we hear of another death, which unfortunately is not ceasing any time soon. There is a hge difference between feeling very sad at hearing of someone else’s pain (and none of us comes even close to Moshe Rabbeinu, so I doubt we are near that madreiga of his empathy), and being in actual aveilus for the death of a Yid whom we do not know.

I am sorry you are feeling so much pain, but your post has a narcissistic tone to it, as do many of your others.

I only have one suggestion for you. And that is, look into yourself when hearing of such tragedies. Not into others.

Just look at some pictures of puppies like goyim do.

Redleg,

You know, I sometimes think that, rather than offering chizuk and mussar to the CR, MA is really subtly mocking the feelings and ideas he offers with such seeming sincerity and, by extension, the other members of the CR that do, in fact, actually hold those views and attitudes.

Everything you wrote is correct, except for “subtly.”

May Hashem comfort you along with the mourners of Zion

You’re welcome

I suggest you get professional help to learn how to detach a little. Yes, we are meant to feel others’ pain, but you are taking it to an unhealthy extreme. There is a shvil hazahav, and you are not on it. On one side of the continuum, is total apathy to pain. On the other side of the continuum, is intense grief at every tragedy, to the point of feeling the need to ‘sit shiva’ and receive comfort from others. Both are not healthy.

There is a reason why shiva is required only for family members when someone passes away, and not the whole klal Yisroel, even though we are all considered acheinu.

(That is, if you are saying all this tongue in cheek.)

MA -“Is it possible to be menachem someone when he knows that the entire tragedy the occurred R”L could have been avoided if the brother who it occurred to would have listened to his rav & just done teshuva?”

That’s your problem and a lot of others!

The reason we’re in Golus and have Tzarus, is not because we didn’t listen to some Chumros, (if that’s what you meant by Rav,) but because we didn’t listen to the Torah!

We read every year – Chazon, did anyone on that Shabbos think to themselves – what I’m going to do to improve?

He’s just confused. He doesn’t understand the concept of brothers or mourning

Just because a rosh yeshiva give a certain dvar torah and chizuk, doesnt mean we should

Sam Klein, Mashiach Agent

How can you even write this!? You should be so upset over this tragedy to the extent that you shouldn’t even have the koach to even LIFT A FINGER! After such a tragedy, you have the strength to open up your computer and type words!?

You should be so upset by this, you should BASH your computer into a million pieces! You should fast for a year straight, without eating or drinking ANYTHING. THAT is the ONLY way to make things right with Hashem.

To me, it seems like you really aren’t very upset at all. If you bash your computer into a MILLION pieces out of agmas nefesh, only then will we know you TRULY feel pain.

I really shouldn’t be writing now, mere days to Yom Hadin. I unfortunately have a big baggage (putting it mildly) to contend with and I really should be elsewhere at this time. It’s just that certain posters really rub/ tickle/ scratch me and most others the wrong way…

So..

IT’S SCARY!!! SPOOKY!!!

I was at an event the other night and during the course of the evening, this gentleman starts a conversation with me. And then just so suddenly he goes on the MA tirade, ALMOST WORD FOR WORD, VERBATIM, mentioning all of them (you could look these ‘works’ yourself) from the day this account first started… Complete, with all the ‘signals’ and ‘signs’, ‘straight from heaven’… ‘how long do I have to wait for you or Klal Yisroel to do Teshuva’. On and on.. straight from the famed lines of our ‘hero’. I actually asked him (when he took the time off to replenish his lungs) if he posts on Yeshiva World, I actually did. He said he doesn’t have time for that, why would I…

So: either he really does post , AND I BUSTED HIM (and him – me!!) or it’s just PLAIN SPOOKY!!! Two guys going around like that.. (and mind you, from the outside he looks quite mostly there..)