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    👑RebYidd23
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    Thanks, that narrows it down to just about everything.

    #1159028
    👑RebYidd23
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    What is considered natural?

    #1159029
    akuperma
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    Natural means not assembled from chemicals. Things such as pig blood and ground up insect are natural since they were made from genuine pigs and genuine insects.

    Anything with a flavor added is inherently in need of a hecksher to be kosher.

    #1159030
    👑RebYidd23
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    Ground up insects are used for color, not flavor.

    #1159031
    charliehall
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    Arsenic is natural. I would not recommend eating it, even with a hechsher.

    #1159032
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    Natural means not assembled from chemicals. Things such as pig blood and ground up insect are natural since they were made from genuine pigs and genuine insects.

    Not really. Natural means that the flavor component comes from the item in question and artificial means the flavor comes from something else.

    There is more than just the flavor component so it may need a hechsher regardless if it is natural or artificial.

    #1159033
    popa_bar_abba
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    I think it’s that natural means made from things that are ordinarily thought of as food. So if you make cherry flavor out of pigs feet, that’s natural.

    Artificial means made from things that are not ordinarily thought of as food. So if you make cherry flavor out of wood, that’s artificial.

    See 21 CFR 101.22

    Allspice, Anise, Basil, Bay leaves, Caraway seed, Cardamon, Celery seed, Chervil, Cinnamon, Cloves, Coriander, Cumin seed, Dill seed, Fennel seed, Fenugreek, Ginger, Horseradish, Mace, Marjoram, Mustard flour, Nutmeg, Oregano, Paprika, Parsley, Pepper, black; Pepper, white; Pepper, red; Rosemary, Saffron, Sage, Savory, Star aniseed, Tarragon, Thyme, Turmeric.

    (5) The term chemical preservative means any chemical that, when added to food, tends to prevent or retard deterioration thereof, but does not include common salt, sugars, vinegars, spices, or oils extracted from spices, substances added to food by direct exposure thereof to wood smoke, or chemicals applied for their insecticidal or herbicidal properties.

    #1159034
    👑RebYidd23
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    Why is “natural and artificial flavors” acceptable? Why can’t they get more specific?

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