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Is it the visibility of drivers, or is driving too masculine?
Chasidishe women are stay at home moms.
Wow. So many people I thought were chasidishe women are actually not… So what are those Chasidishe non-stay-at-home-mom females called if not Chasidishe women?
It would be a problem for any frum woman or girl, because you’re secluded in the front with another pilot for hours on end. Unless she can always secure the company of another female, I think it wouldn’t be wise. I don’t know Halacha, just common sense.
” you’re secluded in the front with another pilot for hours on end”
Not really; pilots often leave the cockpit on long flights.
And the OP did not distinguish between private flying and commercial flying. Private pilots fly their own aircraft, solo.
I know that. But the ones I fly are two seaters.
As far as the long flights one commercial ones, it’s still in seclusion. Even if one could circumvent Halachah issues, it’s not a smart, sensible situation for one frum female.
i could see how it would be an unprofitable venture. all the flights would leave two hours late
A good example of OO psak:
“Not really; pilots often leave the cockpit on long flights.”
How does that change that pilots are secluded for long periods? Clearly long periods mean the length of time that would be an issur yichud. And the cockpit on commercial flights are locked from the inside so that people from outside cannot access. Would seem that way here can be a very real issue of yichud.
How many chassidic men have Pilots licenses?
If the co-pilot was a yekke all the flights would leave EXACTLY two hours late
Joseph- you mean they aren’t supporting their husbands in koillel??? I’m not mekabel!
ZD, You’d be surprised..
simcha613: I believe your mixing up chassidish with yeshivish?
They don’t drive, why would you think that they fly?
Comlink: you hypothesized 2 possibilities, masculinity and visibility. Presumably you think piloting is masculine but not visible.
I’d like to hypothesize two alternative possibilities. Is driving banned so as to require community infrastructure or merely to discourage independent behavior? A pilot who can’t drive surely still needs infrastructure so maybe it would be okay. But it is independent and (*gasp*) out-of-community recreational activity so the final decision is BANNED.
It is not only untzniusdik but also unsafe for a defenseless woman to take public transportation.
It would be a problem for any frum woman or girl, because you’re secluded in the front with another pilot for hours on end. Unless she can always secure the company of another female, I think it wouldn’t be wise. I don’t know Halacha, just common sense.
That would apply to men also, who would be in a cockpit with a woman sometimes.
But you didn’t think of that.
You only think of this stuff for other people.
I think it would be much more common for a specific woman pilot to be paired with a male pilot than for a specific male pilot to be paired with a woman pilot. In fact a woman pilot is more likely to be paired with a male pilot than with another woman pilot, whereas a male pilot is more likely to be paired with another male pilot than with a woman pilot.
I think it would be much more common for a specific woman pilot to be paired with a male pilot than for a specific male pilot to be paired with a woman pilot. In fact a woman pilot is more likely to be paired with a male pilot than with another woman pilot, whereas a male pilot is more likely to be paired with another male pilot than with a woman pilot.
But over a career it’s a statistical certainty for either?
In all the times I’ve flown I’ve never been with a female co-pilot (or instructor)
Just because all the times you’ve flown you haven’t flown with a woman pilot , doesn’t mean most pilots aren’t women.
Just because most chassidish women aren’t pilots doesn’t mean most women aren’t either.
About 5% of pilots are women.
So 5% of me is women?
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