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    HaLeiVi
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    First of all, is it allowed? Do we find any of our post-Terach ancestors owning pet rocks?

    On Shabbos, it is probably Muktza unless you do something to it. Otherwise, if it is small, perhaps you may not even pet it.

    Are you allowed to talk to it? Perhaps you may say anything other than Atta Yeledetani. What if it is older than you?

    If you get angry at it are you allowed to throw a stone at it?

    #1012892
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    lol

    #1012893

    Depends, Is it a good rock?

    #1012894
    DaMoshe
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    It’s completely assur! It might lead to owning a pet dog!

    #1012895
    zahavasdad
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    Perfectly Muttar and if you see someone being Mechalel Shabbos you can throw it at them

    #1012896
    mobico
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    A well-trained pet rock hurls ITSELF at cars being driven by Jews on Shabbos.

    #1012897
    👑RebYidd23
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    No, it’s avodah zarah.

    #1012898
    Sam2
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    Someone once told me that the Rambam holds that talking to an inanimate object is Apikorsus. I’m not sure if he’s right or why that would be though.

    #1012899

    I have a rock inside my head does that count?

    #1012900
    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
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    I used to have a pet rock, but the local pet shop charged a lot for rock food so I had to get rid of it. Luckily, one of my neighbors was looking for a pet, so I didn’t have to turn it out on the street.

    #1012901
    HaLeiVi
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    Sam, we know that Horo’as Sha’ah can’t be used for Avoda Zara. If so, how was Moshe Rabbeinu supposed to talk to the rock? I think this is proof against what that person said.

    On the other hand, this rule might only apply to real, original Avoda. I say this because we do find Horo’as Sha’ah to use Avoda Zara animals on a Bama. I think this was by Gilad.

    #1012902
    HaLeiVi
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    Now, my Shabbos question is, is Machshava enough or does it need a Maaseh? Also, according to the Mechaber about Kadur, does a Maaseh even help?

    #1012903
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    I used to have a pet rock. I called him rock. but i never actually spoke to him so no worry about a”z there. I think my mom threw it out.

    #1012904
    yitzchokm
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    this topic is EPIC!

    popa! where art thou?

    #1012905
    YW Moderator-42
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    My imaginary pet rock’s name is Tzuri. She is generally even-tempered except on Purim when she gets stoned.

    #1012906
    mobico
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    yitzchokm – What you probably meant was, this thread ROCKS!

    #1012907
    Sam2
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    HaLeiVi: Those rules don’t apply to Moshe Rabbeinu anyway, as the reason for them is they are a Hach’chasha of Moshe’s Nevua.

    #1012908
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Mine’s name is Evan. We feed him Cocoa Pebbles.

    #1012909
    HaLeiVi
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    That applies to the other rule, that it can only be Leshaata. But as far as being a Hak’chasha of Toras Moshe, why tthe difference between AZ and any other Aveira? Obviously, the difference is inherent, there can’t be a Horo’as Shaah for AZ.

    Another problem I have with that claim is the Heter of Ahava Veyir’a, in which the Rambam takes it even further than others, IIRC.

    #1012910
    HaLeiVi
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    There is a different problem with talking to it. Since it doesn’t understand, you are transgressing Al Tochach Letz. (If you think this is Letzanus, then surely you may not rebuke me.)

    #1012911

    My rock is actually quite serious, not a letz at all (that’s his owners job). He understands things quite well.He is actually finishing up his degree in geological engineering at stonybrook

    #1012912
    yitzyk
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    On shabbos, you can peek at out of the corner of your eye as you sing “Tzur Mishelo”.

    If it dies R”L, you can say “Hatzur tamim Paolo” at the levaye.

    You can give it ground coffee for breakfast.

    Name yours ‘5 miles’, then tell everyone you walked 5 miles today.

    #1012913

    And you could sing it to sleep with “rock” chazak

    #1012914
    👑RebYidd23
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    It’s not speaking that makes it avodah zarah, it’s believing.

    #1012915
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    What about seeing?

    #1012916

    Does anyone know of any kosher for pesach rock food?

    #1012917
    YW Moderator-42
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    Try shmura matzah balls without seltzer…

    #1012918

    why not seltzer?

    #1012919
    apushatayid
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    my rebbe always told me to stay away from rock.

    #1012920
    👑RebYidd23
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    Seltzer makes for a very fluffy, fragile mix.

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