frum yeshiva open during snowstorms

if it’s dangerous, just keep your kid home. Why does my kid need to not learn just because it’s too dangerous for you?

kfb – The yeshiva is open but warm inside. If you weren’t gonna let your kids outside that day, don’t send them. But if, like you said, it’s dangerous, then they shouldn’t be outside playing either.

I happen to like when my kids get a break so I let them stay home whenever I get an excuse to do so, but regarding your question, our kids school said that IF you have a safe way to get to school, please do so, otherwise stay home. The building was warm and they had extra space heaters.

The school “rewarded” the boys with a day of sledding when the weather warmed.

Clearly they mean to do the opposite of all the non frum yeshivas.

Doesn’t it remind you of socialism?

Not really. I think that if a Rebbe is willing to put himself out for kids to have a more productive day that is very virtuous. Like I said, I personally prefer a day off, but that doesn’t mean they are wrong for not calling one.

iak – seriously? Is that an old prejudice that lingers on? I have no doubt many of the yeshivos had no such thought (even if some did).

In my city I heard people complain that if the school closed for a day, they want a make up day or a refund. And do you think the teachers want a make up day? Many would rather just open (I work in a public school where many made the same comment)

Trust me, many of the parents don’t want the kids home and resent days off. Many work and don’t have child care options. Many don’t have the patience, and many can’t stand watching their kids spend the day playing video games. Whatever the reason, don’t be so sure you can speak for them all(or any?)

A largenumber of yeshivos have boarding students, and even many who don’t have many students and teachers who live close by. The more modern schools and public schools tend to be all “day students” (commuters) and teachers are less likely to live in the same neighborhood. You should be comparing them to private schools with on site dormitories.

I seriously doubt a yeshiva would penalize a teacher or student who didn’t make it from a different neighborhood (especially if they had to drive). I suspect the teachers who need to drive to work were very much annoyed, but after all, its their boy who got elected on a promise of helping surpress anti-union activists (which is more important than money to them).

Can someone explain to me why someone whose thought process is so much more like the non frum yeshivos than the frum ones sends to a frum one? (OP’s terminology, not mine)

DY- you can start by telling me what a non frum yeshiva is like I asked before.

There seems to be some obviliusness to the weather patterns in some frum communities. A relative in lakewood had told me he didnt even bother with the Radio during hurricane Irine (There was some special radio broadcast from Israel that would go on if there was a need to evacuate Lakewood during the storm) and another didnt even bother to listen to evacuate Far Rockaway during hurricane Sandy.

DY

They knew about the storms but just didnt seem to care , Their attitude was Hashem will decide and there was nothing they could do about it

IAK KFB. Sometimes I get a headache processing the dribbling bumbling nonsense coming from people’s mouths.

Are you seriously suggesting that because a Yeshiva wanted to open on a snow day, that is because they want to save the children from their own homes? Have you been bitten by a mad dog?!

For a minute I thought you were Popa with one of his humorous posts (Popa that’s a compliment btw)

So please explain how those schools give any vacation! Surely even one day of vacation is so called ‘destroying the kids’

As I said, I’m getting a headache from your lunacy and sheer extremism.

And then someone said something about socialism!

Am I the only one who thinks kfb and iak are the same person?

You possibly are.

I found the tablet article that spawned this thread.

Syag- do you think it’s right if the schools open and some kids can’t attend because of the dangerous conditions? They’re going to have to make up the work that their classmates did and they miss the socialization that the other kids who attended that day get.

I’m not sure if you are even serious with this question. The teachers can review, do activities, play lots of different games (like jeapordy, around the world, tic tac toe) that use review questions to play. That’s what we did on snowy days (in my very modern, zionist, co-ed school) when some didn’t show, or on days when the flu was going around and lots of kids were missing.

My dad talks about a day when only three boys showed up for school so they worked on memorizing some of the after-brochos.

“They’re going to have to make up the work that their classmates did and they miss the socialization that the other kids who attended that day get.”

This is such narishkeit.

Soemtimes people will say since I am doing a Mitzvah Hashem will make sure nothing happens and its only a “little snow” and will drive to school.

kfb,

Can someone explain to me why frum yeshivas feel it’s necessary to open school during snowstorms while public schools and modern schools are closed? Besides for the fun of snow days and playing in the snow and having time off, but isn’t it dangerous to keep the yeshiva open?

Public school districts usually base their decision to open or close on whether their school buses can navigate the snow or ice covered streets, or whether conditions may deteriorate during the day where the buses cannot get the kids home. If their decision making were based on broader danger for students coming to school, then they would remain closed for much of the winter, because sidewalks used by kids walking to school may be icy for days or weeks after a snow event, and streets away from bus routes where students live may not be clear. If a particular yeshiva does not utilize buses, then why should it close?

Doesn’t it remind you of socialism?

Uhh, no. Actually, your complaint is more grounded in socialism, since you expect the schools to decide for the parents whether it is safe enough to go to school. It is ultimately the parents’ responsibility to assess conditions and determine whether it is safe to send their children to school. Most streets in a district may be plowed and salted, while yours is still treacherous. If you send your child out and s/he G-d forbid gets hurt, it’s not the fault of the open school, it’s your fault.

I must say that the complaint raised here is probably one of the most inane complaints posted in the CR. And that takes quite a stretch.

PBA is right, this was lifted out of a ridiculous article in Tablet. It was silly there and it did not get any smarter on its trip to this site.