Who cares about sports.

If you dont care why did you watch for two hours and its Bryant not Briant, Kobe has five rings and lebron 2 Kobe’s career probably will be over in 3 to 4 years while lebron has another 8-10 years.

Have you ever seen the game where one guy says the initials of a sports player and the other guy has to guess?

Now about you q personally I am not into sports but I understand if someone follows it, everyone finds different things interesting, though the case you disproved is OOC

In my younger days i was a big sports fan, hockey & baseball were my sports. Following sports is one of the last semi-kosher outlets we have left. The hope is that it is kept in perspective as to what is really the emes.

I will say that my sports fan bubble burst when i met a hall of fame ball player, gave him a pen & a ball for an autograph, & three minutes later, with the pen & ball in his hand, asked me what it was i had asked for. By the way he was shikir.

What the atletes do off the field is now the entertainment. They are no longer role models for kids like DiMagio and Maris were.

Lev Aryeh and The Frum Guy: As someone who has listened to too many arguments on WFAN about whether Eli Manning is an ELITE player, or merely an EXCEPTIONAL player I completely agree that there is such a thing as a bad sports argument. And one of my favorite pet peeves is when someone says “I guarantee that if CC Sabathia had been on the ’97 Yankees, they would have won the world series”, which makes no sense because you can’t guarantee something that is by definition hypothetical.

But there are also many potential good arguments to be had about sports, even arguments that employ hypotheticals. For example, people talk about how a hypothetical player e.g. Declon Thames is not as good as another hypothetical player, e.g. Mike L. Riordan, because he has fewer championships, or because he had to go find other superstars to team up with. But as it turns out, Mike L. Riordan happened to have two other hall of fame players on his team each time he won a championship. At the same time, people say that, e.g. Ike Crown is not a good coach because he’s only ever done anything with Declon Thames on his team. But no well known coach has ever won anything without a superstar on his team (except for a hypothetical coach named Barry Crown, who won with the Michigan Solenoids), and those same people will be quick to tell you that Declon had no supporting cast and that’s why he had to take his talents to East Shore. In that context, hypotheticals can be useful. And as with the visceral pleasure from watching a game, enjoying such arguments need not be defended.

YD: How about Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle, two perpetual drunkards who basically drank themselves to death (Mantle more so than Ruth)? Or Ty Cobb who sharpened his spikes extra in order to hurt opposing payers while sliding into bases.

I don’t know that you could ever learn anything about lifestyle, even from the real old time athletes either!

I don’t mean to disparage the many outstanding young men who actually LIKE to watch sports.

ITS ALL NARISHKITE. Unfortunately we all privy ourselves to some amount of shtoosim. What can we do?? Work on ourselves. We know whats good and whats bad, whats right and whats wrong, whats Emmes and whats shtoos. Just dont try convincing other people that “there is nothing wrong with sports”, cause then your in denial and have but little hope.

I hold that football is avodah zara. During football season every sunday frum yidden plant themselves in front of the tv from early in the morning, to watch the pre game analyses, until the wee hours of monday morning so they can watch the analyses of every game afterwards. And then of course monday has a din of yom kippur to these people because of monday night football (yemach shmo). People are beyond obsessed with it its mamish insane. People will miss weddings and other important events because chas v’shalom they should miss a minute of a football game. What a bizayon hatoira! The other sports from my observation are not worshiped to the same degree.

@Nigritude Ultramarine, absolutely not. Nothing wrong with Tennis, Golf or any sport for that matter. Playing it that is. But to go follow every shaigitz and shiksa that made that play and this stat is… that’s right, wrong! Then you even have those “whats wrong with sports” people that must follow the entire dating life, marriage, treason and divorce of their sports idols. Sheesh right back at you.

@BoruchSchwartz

Now you can get football on your phone with direct TV (Thanks Payton and Eli!) so they won’t have to miss the weddings!

Because its healthy to have a hobby

all Beis Medrash and no play makes Yaakov a dull boy