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June 23, 2013 8:59 am at 8:59 am #609754moeisraelParticipant
Balak and Yair Lapid who’s better? I would submit that Balak is much better because he believed in G-d and the power of Hakodosh Boruch Hue. While Lapid believes in nothing other than himself. In addition the fact that Lapid may be jewish is not a plus it’s minus. As chazal teach us a jew who doesn’t do any thing right is worse than a gentile-the lowest of the low.
June 23, 2013 1:04 pm at 1:04 pm #960909147Participantmoeisrael:- Here is another question for you to contend with, whilst you are at it:-
Who’s better? Korach & Yair Lapid who’s better? considering that both of them are Jewish.
June 23, 2013 1:27 pm at 1:27 pm #960910HrolfrMemberI say Korach. The ground hasn’t swallowed Lapid. Yet anyway.
June 23, 2013 1:39 pm at 1:39 pm #960911dullradianceParticipantBefore you all respond to this keep in mind the warning – don’t judge a person until you are in his situation.
How about this – who is better <insert your favorite gadol> or Yair Lapid?
Take into consideration the upbringing of both and what each accomplished.
How about this – who is better <insert your favorite gadol> or <insert another talmud chacham who doesn’t agree with you favorite gadol>?
June 23, 2013 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #960912DaMosheParticipantmoeisrael: Why must you put up these ridiculous comparisons, which can only lead to lashon hara? Yair Lapid doesn’t care if chareidim want to sit and learn – he just doesn’t want to have to pay for it. Balak wanted to get rid of the Jews. He tried to get them to sin in order to do so – kind of what you’re doing here by starting a conversation that can only lead to lashon hara and sinas chinam.
June 23, 2013 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #960913Josh31ParticipantSee the Gemara of Kamtza and Bar Kamtza starting in Gittin 57. This is the Gemara many learn on 9 Av.
It is the part where Onkolus “raises” both Jewish and non Jewish sinners.
June 23, 2013 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #960914Ben LeviParticipantDaMoshe
You have that wrong about Yair Lapid.
He also is deliberatley mechallel Shabbos Bfarhesia.
He also feels the need to pass a law legalizing Toeiva marriage, wants to rubn busses on Shabbos.
basically any and everything to uproot Torah U’Mitzvos.
June 24, 2013 4:28 pm at 4:28 pm #960915rebdonielMemberI read an interesting piece in the latest Hadassah Magazine over Shabbat (my mother is a lifetime member).
They have an interview with MK Dr. Ruth Calderon, a scholar of Talmud, and she explains a distressing encounter she had with MK Lapid a few years back.
Apparently, she initiated a program where prominent secular Israelis took part in Torah study. She says that she was immensely bothered when Lapid read Tanakh as part of the program, and stubbornly insisted on upsetting traditional Jews by saying G-d’s name as “Yahweh,” not the more respectful and traditional HaShem or even Adonai.
June 24, 2013 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #960916benignumanParticipantRebdoniel,
She is a member of his party. Maybe he has changed.
June 24, 2013 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #960917writersoulParticipantbenignuman: You think that people like everyone in their political organization? If that was a prereq for membership, membership would go WAAAAY down.
June 24, 2013 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #960918benignumanParticipantwritersoul,
There is a difference between other members and the founder/leader.
There are other reasons to think he has changed. He has frum people on his ticket. He has publicly admired certain Orthodox Rabbis and he has given speaches stating his position towards the Chareidim, which (if taken as true) clearly demonstrate that he does not hate frum Jews.
June 24, 2013 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #960919gavra_at_workParticipantmoeisrael = Chrysoprase on slab.
This is not even worth discussing, and I request the mods remove it.
June 24, 2013 9:42 pm at 9:42 pm #960920rebdonielMemberHe doesn’t have contempt for observant Jews, that I do give him. I haven’t looked into this much, but what is their position on communities in Yesha?
June 25, 2013 2:14 am at 2:14 am #960922yytzParticipantRebDoniel, about Yesha, well I think he’s in favor of the two-state solution but wants Yerushalayim to remain undivided and is not opposed to the natural growth of settlements for the time being. So I guess you could call that moderate left. The close pact between Yesh Atid and Bayit HaYehudi might have influenced Lapid to place less emphasis on this issue, in order to focus on policy goals that (unlike achieving peace by uprooting settlements) actually have a chance of getting accomplished. I don’t really care for most of Yesh Atid’s policy positions, but they certainly seem less bad than Shinui, the anti-religious party his father started.
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