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May 10, 2013 2:07 am at 2:07 am #609283blackhatwannabeParticipant
Is one chayiv to give maaser over wedding money when in one is being supported by their parents?
May 10, 2013 2:42 am at 2:42 am #951996147ParticipantAbsolutely;
Even Aniyim have to give Maaser on what they receive.
No-one is off the hook for Maaser money, just as no-one is off the hook to go & perform Jury Duty.
May 10, 2013 2:59 am at 2:59 am #951997popa_bar_abbaParticipantwill you give maaser every month on the money your parents give you
May 10, 2013 3:45 am at 3:45 am #951998Sam2ParticipantBy wedding money do you mean money received to help pay for the wedding or do you mean wedding presents?
May 10, 2013 3:57 am at 3:57 am #951999Daniel RosenMemberNo, if you only have enough money for your basic needs you do not give maaser. You are patur. If your parents are giving you money for a specific purpose it is assur to give the money to tzedaka. You must use the money for what your parents gave it to you for.
May 10, 2013 4:01 am at 4:01 am #952000Daniel RosenMember147 is completely wrong and ignorant of halacha.
May 10, 2013 4:08 am at 4:08 am #952001HaKatanParticipantAsk your LOR (of course).
While it is true that even an ani has a mitzva of tzedaka, that does not mean they have a chiyuv maaser.
May 10, 2013 4:22 am at 4:22 am #952002☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant147 is completely wrong and ignorant of halacha.
Yes, but I don’t disagree with his comparison. 😉
May 10, 2013 4:33 am at 4:33 am #952003SaysMeMemberDo you have to give maaser on gifts? Same as birthday money?
May 10, 2013 4:35 am at 4:35 am #952004E-O-MParticipantCongratulations/mazal/mazel/Tov/tuf on your wedding!
May you both have a long happy life and many children
May 10, 2013 4:36 am at 4:36 am #952005Sam2ParticipantDaniel Rosen: You misread the case (I think; it’s slightly ambiguous but neither is the way you read it). The person is supported by their parents and got presents for their wedding. Of course they have to give Ma’aser on those presents. If they received money from Tzedaka Davka for the wedding then there might be what to discuss.
May 10, 2013 11:31 am at 11:31 am #952006Torah613TorahParticipantBHW, why don’t you ask a Rav?
May 10, 2013 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm #952007popa_bar_abbaParticipantYou don’t have to pay tax on gifts, so why should you have to give maaser?
Also, if you sell marijuana in Colorado, are you allowed to deduct overhead from your maaser calculation, because you can’t deduct it from your taxes because of 280E.
May 10, 2013 3:32 pm at 3:32 pm #952008blackhatwannabeParticipantSam2-I was referring to wedding gifts
May 10, 2013 3:41 pm at 3:41 pm #952009Sam2ParticipantPBA: Because Halachah isn’t dictated by American tax law?
May 10, 2013 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm #952010yitzchokmParticipantSam2
wait!!
dina d’malchuta dina!
dina d’malchuta dina!
dina d’malchuta dina!
lol
May 10, 2013 4:32 pm at 4:32 pm #952011☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBecause Halachah isn’t dictated by American tax law?
What happened to dina d’malchusa dina?
😉
Edit: Yitzchokm’s post wasn’t up when I posted. Baruch shekivanti.
May 10, 2013 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #952012the voice of reasonMember147 and Daneil Rosen, I think you are both wrong but DR is closer to being right.
All people must give tzidaka (charity), however masser (10%) is not an obligation but good hanhaga (maybe a minhag). if you are being supported i.e. taking tzidaka to live, then it is worth talking to a rabbi, because there are strong grounds not to give masser as well as other halachos related to money, such as shopping in a Jewish store even if it is more expensive.
May 10, 2013 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #952013☕ DaasYochid ☕Participanthowever masser (10%) is not an obligation but good hanhaga (maybe a minhag)
That’s a machlokes.
May 10, 2013 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #952014ChanieEParticipantIt’s not so clear that ma’aser is due on cash or cash equivalents. D’oraisa it’s on agricultural products and it’s a machlokes whether the obligation extends to money. Even accepting that ma’aser does apply to money, there are differences of opinion as to which expenses reduce the amount of income subject to ma’aser.
May 10, 2013 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #952015Daniel RosenMemberthe voice of reason: Thank you for saying you think I am closer to being right but why do you think I am wrong as well?
May 10, 2013 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm #952016Sam2Participanttvor: Ma’aser K’safim, B’pashtus, is an Chiyuv D’rabannan.
Yitzchokm: I’m not denying Dina D’malchusa nor the fact that it applies more widely than some people think (I think we’ve had this discussion before). I’m just saying that American tax law is not the same as the Chiyuv of Ma’aser Kesafim.
May 10, 2013 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #952017the voice of reasonMemberThere is a distinction between tzedaka and masser. everyone must give tzadaka, but masser is much more complex.
You are right that you 147 cannot say he must give masser, but he must give something.
May 10, 2013 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #952018Daniel RosenMember“everyone must give tzadaka….You are right that you 147 cannot say he must give masser, but he must give something.”
Why? If you only have enough for your most basic needs and are living off tzedaka from your parents you are patur from maaser and tzedaka. You must take care of yourself before others. The question of the OP was not even about tzedaka but about maaser.
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