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So I went to buy chametz hayaduah, that is beer, and there was a likely looking mixed pack of Sam Adams. But there were all sorts of new flavors. But Sam Adams is under the Star-K.
But the Star-K for some reason after 5 odd years still hasn’t managed to get their mark on the labels consistently. But we all know that the whole plant is under their hashgacha, and they put out lists of the beers and it is all of them. So they will all be kosher.
Except like once in a while it isn’t because it is a homebrew competition that carries the Sam Adams name and wasn’t made by them. And once there was Chocolate Bock which was made by them and was kosher and was also milchig.
So I didn’t buy it. And I was thinking how the Star-K has really used up a lot of their credibility with this issue. So that’s why I call them incredible.
Why have they used up their credibility if the acceptable ones are listed?
Also, aren’t there some flavored ones that are problematic (not kosher)?
If it can say Sam Adams and be not kosher, I want to see a list (absent a symbol).
Wasn’t there a berry flavor which wasn’t kosher?
In order for Sam Adams to put a Star-K on new varieties they need to get an updated certification and get their label artwork approved by the Star-K. To make uncertified varieties alongside their certified varieties they just need to use ingredients that are approved by the Star-K.
If the OU and now the Star-K are out, there are significantly fewer national products that you can eat. :-/
Popa, their job is to make sure the products they certify are indeed kosher. If they don’t promptly publicize which ones are okay even without a printed symbol, they’re not necessarily doing themselves or the Boston Beer Co. any favors, but that’s their business.
This is unrelated, but is a gripe I have with labeling.
Some products with only a K really do have rabbinical oversight (whether these rabbis are “accepted” is a different matter). Instead of the public having to research this, the company might as well just get an OU or a Kof K or one of the mainstream hashgachos to improve the bottom line.
All goyim put goyishe treifah pig ham fat pork in yiddishe kosher food.
Star-K does not give a hecksher to anything milkig unless it is Halav Yisrael.
The problem with “list” kashrus is policies can change relative to the list. That’s why many people strongly prefer to see a hecksher symbol on the product. Under American law, the company’s can (and do) force the recall of an authorized hecksher, but have no control over an unauthorized or dates use of a company’s trademark.
RD, I don’t know if it’s still true, but years ago Kraft used a K on some products that were under a widely accepted mainstream hashgacha (maybe the OK?). Kellogg’s uses (or used) a K on cereals that are under the VHM (Vaad of MA). I think it’s odd that a company that’s based in Michigan uses a Massachusetts hashgacha.
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