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I get paid for the whole Pesach and don’t have to come into work. From an objective ethical standpoint, do I have to come into work the Sunday before if my boss asks me to?
I get paid for the whole Pesach and don’t have to come into work. From an objective ethical standpoint, do I have to come into work the Sunday before if my boss asks me to?
Who pays you for Pesach? The boss? The boss can change that as well if he/she desires.
yes, he is giving you more than a week off paid. by coming in sunday, you will give him the impression that you really care.
So your saying ethics aside I am at his mercy.
“Ethics” says he doesn’t have to pay you for Pesach.
You get paid for pesach even if you don’t go in on Chol Hamoed? Wow.
pou_bear curiouser and curiouser… you get paid for sitting and doing nothing and for not coming in on Pesach? Can I join? I’ll bring along my iPod and Kindle and enjoy myself!
from what im hearing is that your boss doesnt even have work for you to complete,but he obviously is paying you and if he is paying he has the right to demand you to come in to work and dont forget he has the right to change his mind about paying for the whole pesach, and obviously he likes your work that he is willing to pay you the whole pesach so if i was in your shoes as a token of appreciation id come in to work even though i know %100 their is no work to be done , good luck and chag kasher vesameach
Sunday is not Erev Chag, being closed for the entire yom Tov is hard. All he is asking is for you to show up on Sunday so that he can feel that the mess Yom Tov will bring will be a little minimized.
is the paid pesach instaed of getting off for legal holidays? Cuz then he doesnt have the right to change his mind. But why should he be able to ask sunday? During a regular week would he ask you to come in on a sunday and would you?
You are getting off all of Chol HaMoed and you feel like you are being worked “to the last drop”???? I would *volunteer* to work on Sunday in order to get that kind of deal!
pou_bear = “I know he is simply asking us to come in because he feels the need to use us to the last drop.”
No he’s probably asking you to come in so that you should be up to date with work before Pesach so that the accumulation of work should be new projects, not old ones.
He’s not asking for too much, by the way.
pou_bear- I don’t get off legal holidays or chol hamoed. I might even have work on Monday- and I’m not kidding.
If your original agreement was that you do not have to work on Pesach then it is unethical of him to go now and use that as a means of pressuring you into working on Sunday. If he does so he is unfairly taking advantage of you. Of course, he can ask you for whatever favor he wants, but he shouldn’t be guilt-tripping you based on something he has already agreed to.
If per your original agreement you are supposed to work on Sunday, then, well, why would you feel that you don’t have to work? There is still nothing wrong with asking for a favor, of course.
If you are really opposed to coming in on Sunday, take the day off without pay. No one is forcing you to go but to get paid, you have to go. Working before a long week holiday is not unreasonable. Ask anyone who has to work or use vacation time or take the holidays without pay or someone looking for work. The Grass is not always greener. Go to work happily or plan to be off the day before the holiday. That is not looked at kindly where I work.
If you have a problem find another job.
well, if you worked last sunday, then its reasonable for him to expect this sunday too. if you won’t have work though…
but it has nothing to do with the fact that you’ll have the rest of the week off. thats your legal holiday vacation that’s paid, it’s not a “favor” he’s giving you that should affect your decision about wokring on sunday
As YTW says, it’s really a halachic shaila and depends upon the conditions of employment.
I don’t get paid for Sundays I am asked to come in for
Why???
I don’t understand what you mean that you don’t get paid for coming in on Sundays. Do you get paid for staying late? I would come in on Sunday, especially if I have the whole week off. Show your boss that you care. Even if half of the cs department doesn’t come in, that looks good for you if you do.
I’ve realized why my sense of ethics bothers others.
You should go if you can go. If you can’t then you can’t. But don’t take advantage of your boss’s generosity.
i don’t see giving pesach off a matter of the boss being generous. He is giving it as their paid legal holiday days, which he has to do, he just changed around the dates to benefit them more. Sunday has nothing to do with the fact that they get off pesach.
On another point, why don’t you get paid for sunday work??
My sister in law works in what I assume is a similar or the same place, sounds like it at least, and she is paid for Sundays. Why are you not?
There is no law you have to give paid holidays. Most companies do pay for them as a benefit, but they dont have to
Right no I understand that. I guess you should be happy you don’t have to use your off days for Yuntif and should count yourself lucky? I have friends who use up most of their sick and vacation days because of Succos and Pesach.
Many people use up their vacation days for YOM TOV, not even Chol Hamoed, just Yom Tom Alone
This is absurd. Most people in America who have normal jobs frequently are required to work on weekends or after hours. The days of 40 hour weeks are long past.
I don’t even care what the pay structure is structured as. You know how much you are making, and now you know how much work is requried for that. If you aren’t making enough for the work you are doing, you’re free to quit (under the 13th amendment).
What was the agreement when you took this job? Were you fully aware that you would be working extra hours for no pay to make up for the hours missed during Yom Tov?
Do you get paid sick/vacation days?
objective ethical standpoint
lol wut
I also went to work today, maybe I saw you there pou bear.
I feel bad for the multitude of girls and women working tomorrow morning…
I fully agree with charliehall and Gamanit.
I’m at work now, Monday. Should finish by 16:00 (4 PM). That’s life.
Some say I should take off. But if I am going to take off for Purim, for Erev Pesach, Chol haMoed, Tisha b’Av, Rosh HaShono, Erev Yom Kippur, Hoshana Rabba, I am going to end up with no holidays left, being a slave to the company.
Now some people may be absolutely fine with that – but unfortunately I am not at that level, so I’m working and taking off in the summer (and sometimes winter) for a 2-3 week holiday which allows me to work for the rest of the year.
I’m a girl and I’m at work today.. I would gladly have come in yesterday and had today off!!!!!!!!!
Also, I use all my vacation days on just Chagim. any “erev” or “chol hamoed” i start losing money… and from what I understand,most people are in the same boat..
I’m working today, just not at my job:)
I worked til 4 on Friday though and if I wasn’t on spring break now I’m not sure if I could’ve taken the day off.
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