Can One Report a Driver to Police for Grabbing a Designated Handicap Parking?

If you report someone for this, is it Lashon Hara for me to announce that fact?

Another zach worth pointing out is that usually their are waaaaay too many handicapped parking spots reserved. You can have a full parking lot with every spot taken except that most of the handicapped spots are empty. This happens quite frequently. In which case, someone parking there without a permit is not really taking away a spot from a handicapped driver.

And another point worth throwing out there is that a lot of people abuse their handicapped parking permits. They get it in some zaida’s name but then use it most of the time when zaida is not in the car with them. (Which is against the permit regulations.) It could very well even be that most of the permit uses are abusive.

Is popa’s shitta that parking in a handicapped slot is akin to parking in front of someone else’s driveway?

Im usually not one to question a psck, but I wonder if the Ruv understands what a handicap parking spot really is, Their function, and purpose.

I would like to know how the question was posed. I don’t understand how the word “stealing” can applied

I heard a story like once that this handicapped guy was about to pull into the only handicapped spot at a Rite Aid. A non-handicapped guy entered the parking lot from the wrong side and got the spot first. The guy said to the angry handicapped driver that he was in a rush and would be “just a minute”. So the handicapped driver blocked him in, called 311, and got out to do his shopping. The guy who stole the spot ended up being parked there for more than “just a minute” while the police came to ticket him. I don’t know if that was the right thing to do (or if either character in the story was Jewish) but it is a fun story to tell. ^_^

We should take care of handicap spot takers internally and not involve the police.

Does a lack of planning on your part (in getting where you need to be in order to daven on time) permit you to violate dina d’malchusa dina?

Are you so certain that it’s a violaton of dina d’malchusa dina??

I guess if you have $250 to burn if you get a ticket, that’s your choice, but that’s a lot of money that would be better put toward tsedakah.

People waste $250 on much worse things than catching a minyan.

Finally, how would you feel if you had a valid health issue, NEEDED to use a handicapped spot, but they were all taken by people who “just needed to run in for five minutes” and then got distracted and ended up shmoozing, keeping you from getting the medication you NEED for Shabbos?

We can play the “how would you feel if…” game with just about anything. We could also play out worst case scenarios to exaggerate our point. I’ll give it a try:

How would you feel if you were in aveilus for your father, l”a, and hadn’t missed a kaddish all year. You gave yourself an extra ten minutes to arrive early, despite the fact that you were busy taking three elderly people to their doctor, and then to the pharmacy for their medication which they NEED for Shabbos, but got caught in traffic, and arrived with only two minutes to spare. There are seventeen handicapped spots available, but no regular spots.

So, how would you feel?

To be clear, I’m not in favor of taking handicapped spots, but I am in favor of reason.

Languages and cultures are not 100% translatable. Words can mean one thing in one language in one area and something else elsewhere.

Simple example is the word Chutzpah, its doesnt translate exactly into english

or The following question Is Soda Kosher (Soda mean differnet things in different languages and difficult locations) It can mean Selter

We do not know how the question was asked of Rav Kanivesky and what the words meant to him and Gedolim always speak indirectly which is harder to translate

We are reading an approximate translation of an indirect statement making exact understand impossible

“Are you so certain that it’s a violaton of dina d’malchusa dina??”

I dont know about the law in Lakewood, but I suppose one can look it up. If this incident took place in NYC…..

(On street Parking) (4) Parking prohibited. When parking is prohibited by signs or rules, no person shall stop a vehicle, attended or unattended, except temporarily for the purpose of and while expeditiously receiving or discharging passengers or loading of unloading property to or from the curb.

(A) Such person is, or is transporting, a handicapped permittee and displays a state special vehicle identification permit issued by the Commissioner of Motor Vehicles or

(C) Such vehicle displays a special license plate or parking permit issued by any governmental entity subject to the laws of the United States, or a foreign country for the purpose of granting special parking privileges to people with disabilities.

(ii) Handicapped plates or permits issued by New York State or by any other state, district, territory or other governmental entity or foreign country shall be valid only in designated off-street parking areas. They are not valid in on-street parking areas.

(o) Permits. For purposes of this section, a “permit” is the authorization granted by the Department to qualified individuals for special parking privileges as set forth in this subdivision. At the discretion of the Department, a permit may be represented by a permit card inscribed with information that describes the specific parking privileges it authorizes or by an IVPS programmed to contain the same information. Where this rule states that a permit must be displayed in the vehicle, a permittee using a permit card must place it in the appropriate place in a vehicle; a permittee using an IVPS must activate the system before so displaying it, in order to authorize parking pursuant to the permit. The registration numbers of the electronic component, the electronic debit card, and all related windshield stickers comprising an IVPS must match in order for such system to be considered properly activated.

(1) Permits for people with disabilities. (i) Authorized parking areas. An operator of a vehicle bearing a valid New York City Special Parking Identification permit may park:

(A) in any “No Parking” zone, including those marked “except authorized vehicles,”

(B) in any “No Standing Except Authorized Vehicles” zone,

(C) at parking meters without using an authorized payment method, and

(D) in “No Standing Except Trucks Loading and Unloading” zones.

Such special parking permit shall be displayed so that it is visible through the windshield. An IVPS must be activated to authorize parking.

(ii) Prohibited parking areas. Such special parking identification permits do not authorize parking:

(A) in a bus stop,

(B) in a taxi-stand,

(C) within 15 feet of a fire hydrant,

(D) in a fire zone,

(E) in a driveway,

(F) in a crosswalk,

(G) in a no stopping zone,

(H) in a no standing zone, or

(I) double parking.

No links.

Dina dmalchusa *only* cover issues thay directly impact the government, such as paying taxes. Other laws are not covered by dina dmalchusa.

Wanderingchana,

If everyone decided to withdraw their savings, the FDIC wouldn’t be able to bail out the banks.

If everyone in Chicago would turn on their toasted ovens at the same time, the electric grid would blow.

Do you think that making a withdrawal or toast is immoral?