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December 17, 2012 12:04 am at 12:04 am #607457chayav inish livisumayParticipant
in the jewish magazines that are widely circulated there seems to be a tendency to have serial stories written. i happen to think its is a great idea because it gets people to buy the mag again the next week.
however ive noticed that these stories tend to be stories of divorce, psychological issues, adoption, shalom bayis issues, and other such problems that i dont think should be the source of klal yisraels childrens entertainment.
it scares people and gives off the impression that it is more common than it is in reality.
why cant little kids, teenagers , and even adults have something normal to read as opposed to reading about tzarros and dysfunctionalitie??
December 17, 2012 2:58 am at 2:58 am #914826Torah613TorahParticipantPeople love reading about other people’s problems.
December 17, 2012 4:55 am at 4:55 am #914827MammeleParticipantThe idea is overcoming adversity. The stories used to be lost and found children, literally or back to yiddishkeit, but this storyline became too predictable. Happily ever after can’t be the basis of a long saga, and even for an ending we now have stories that don’t really finish – supposedly to engage the reader even after the story is over by forcing them to think. I hate thinking ; ) and love happy endings – I guess I’m in the minority nowadays.
However, I don’t think kids are fooled about real life from these stories. They have friends, family and neighbors to base their perceptions of life on, mostly positive, some sad.
December 17, 2012 5:21 am at 5:21 am #914828WolfishMusingsParticipantStories need to have conflict. A story where everything goes well for everyone and nobody suffers any adversity is a very boring story.
The Wolf
December 17, 2012 9:38 am at 9:38 am #914829PosterMemberThere is a certain mag that I buy, mainly for he serial. These serials have to be interesting enough, suspensful, somewhat real life to capture the audience. There have been serials in the past that I started reading and then stopped following if they didnt interest me. So the magazines need to write about whatever it takes to pull an audience.
December 17, 2012 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #914830chayav inish livisumayParticipantgranted this may be the only way to get people to keep reading the story and people wont read stories that are all blissful but i think its better to not have these stories than to have the whole klal yisroel reading about parents that dont like their kids and shalom bayis isssues and fighting and going to psychologists and tales of adoption
why do these authors feel the need to publicize all dysfunctionalities
December 17, 2012 6:38 pm at 6:38 pm #914831PosterMemberMakes pple appreciate their own lives.
December 17, 2012 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #914832TheGoqParticipantThe OP is right lets go back to the usual demonizing of goyim.
December 17, 2012 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #914833chayav inish livisumayParticipantthe goq- i think you missed the point just a teensy bit
poster- thats a terrible svara and ppl shudnt have to read abt dysfunctionalities just to appreciate their own lives
December 17, 2012 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #914834MDGParticipant“why cant little kids, teenagers , and even adults have something normal to read as opposed to reading about tzarros and dysfunctionalitie??”
Because trash sells. Unfortunately, it also influences.
Goq – LOL 🙂
December 17, 2012 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #914835tzarich_zivugMemberThank you + chayav inish livisumay!
Finally, someone else hears the cry…
Every shabbos im left feeling ill after reading the magazines making you wonder if really, are there no more balanced people left? (forget their yom tov supplements total nausea)
sometime I feel the magazine is a brochure from a psychiatrist waiting room with all the stories there…
When people submit letters about this matter to the editors they claim that people in the frum world need to be aware of these situation (panic disorder, abuse, addiction … 🙂 )since they are more frequent these days.
But why dear editors expose normal kids / adults to such awful situations especially when the magazine is designed for mainly shabbos reading
where are all the writers imagination flaying to? they need to be stopped and stapled back into reality ASAP
They are swiping us up in their freaky imagination brain and we are slowly getting convinced that every family has at least one member suffering from some disorder or a divorce ( and every divorce by them is terrible forgetting that by some it’s a big mazel tov).
I hope dear magazine editors and writers you read this thread!
and up your socks
December 17, 2012 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm #914836chayav inish livisumayParticipantsometime I feel the magazine is a brochure from a psychiatrist waiting room with all the stories there…
it happens to be that one of the authors of these stories, husband is a psychologist
December 18, 2012 12:38 am at 12:38 am #914837Dr. DovvshteinMemberwelcome back chayav!
you’re the man (or woman?)
December 18, 2012 3:31 am at 3:31 am #914838brisketParticipantThese stories are popular because A) things like divorce, mental disorders actually happen and most mainstream frum media never make any mention of it. This makes it “new and exciting” to readers. B) Stories that are realistic strike a chord in the reader that allows them to connect to the story and the characters. Can you really get into a nuclear physicist turned Ba’al teshuva who is the only one around who is able to stop a large scale terrorist attack on the population all while battling shidduch issues.
As for should it be counted as frum reading material I don’t believe it’s healthy to read so many stories with a “happily ever after” ending. Throughout our history we have always faced tzaros and often didn’t have perfect ending, but what’s always kept us strong was that we believed in H”BH and made do as best as possible. If a story can impart that on a reader I can’t see why it wouldn’t be good reading material.
December 18, 2012 3:38 am at 3:38 am #914839chayav inish livisumayParticipantdr dovvshtein long time no see i thought you retired from the cr
but seriously whats ur opinion on the matter
December 21, 2012 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #914840chayav inish livisumayParticipantCan you really get into a nuclear physicist turned Ba’al teshuva who is the only one around who is able to stop a large scale terrorist attack on the population all while battling shidduch issues.
Thats what th jewish novels r like and i have no problem with them my poblem is with the stories centering arund personl issues
December 23, 2012 3:21 am at 3:21 am #914841Loyal JewParticipantThe Chofetz Chaim assured fiction because it koshers loshon hora. Enough said.
December 23, 2012 5:06 am at 5:06 am #914842brisketParticipantReally? I’ve never heard that before, but even so it seems that rov haolam doesn’t hold that way.
December 23, 2012 5:16 am at 5:16 am #914843zahavasdadParticipantThe Chofetz Chaim assured fiction because it koshers loshon hora. Enough said.
There is an opinion in the Gemorah that Iyov never happend (It was a work of ficton).
December 23, 2012 6:07 am at 6:07 am #914844RABBAIMParticipantLet the children stick to the sections made for them
December 24, 2012 12:26 am at 12:26 am #914845chayav inish livisumayParticipantRABBAIM- these stories r meant for the children
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