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I was doing the daf the other day and it says something about how to see Sheidim. It says that if you take ash ground to fine soot an sprinkle it around your bed before you go to sleep you will see rooster footprints in the morning, which is what Sheidim feet look like. There was also something about seeing Sheidim. Anyone care to post it or try it
I don’t understand.
I thought that when we daven that the four malachim surround and protect us, that there wouldn’t be an issue with such a thing near us.
If it would work the person would be in a lot of danger because sheidim are mazikim. I would not recommend this to anyone!
Sheidim or Dibbuks. They’re both around, but they’re different things.
Have you lost your mind, or are you just trying to get others to lose theirs?
I know a few.
What is this “mind” thing you speak of?
There was a story 30 years ago in YU about a guy who tried it and went crazy because he saw that Sheidim are everywhere.
I dont mind the sheidim in my bedroom they keep the monsters in my closet at bay.
“It says that if you take ash” What kind of ash? How much? What’s the source?
“ground to fine soot” How finely is it grounded?
“an sprinkle it around your bed” Where? On the comforter? On the floor? Sprinkle it clockwise? counterclockwise?
“before you go to sleep” Before midnight? How long do you have to sleep?
“you will see rooster footprints in the morning”, Perhaps, if we know what to look for.
“which is what Sheidim feet look like.”
I agree wholeheartedly with Chazal. But as you can see, if we don’t know exactly what we are doing, we may not get the results we are looking for.
Just my humble thoughts on the subject.
cholent guy: Rav Bibi bar Abaye tried it and he got hurt. Don’t mess with the Dark Side.
The things that goyim call “ghosts” which they claim are spirits of dead people that haunt places, could those be what we call mezikim or sheidim?
Sam, was there any description gleaned?
HaLeiVi: That, I do not know. I heard this story from my father while we were learning Brachos together when I was very young (somewhere between 10 and 14, I don’t quite remember).
This is TOTALLY freaking me out!!
Does this not scare any one else?!?!
I thought with mezuzos on the doors, sheidim cannot get in.
Mommamia: What’s there to be scared of? HKBH, Torah, Mitzvos, and Kriyas Shma Al Hamitah protect us. (But if you’re really scared you can always hold like the Rambam that they never existed or the Gra that they no longer exist.)
There was a well-known real story of a dybbuk relatively recently that the Chofetz Chaim dealt with.
I love how we so cavalierly discuss seeing Sheidim here as though it were no big deal. Doesnt the Gemara Daf 6a in Brachos say that one who sees Sheidim will go insane? The human mind (or most people except Shlomo and maybe some others over the centuries) cant handle seeing them.
(But if you’re really scared you can always hold like the Rambam that they never existed or the Gra that they no longer exist.)
So those Sheidim that the protagonist in your story saw didn’t hold like them. That reminds me of the saying, a barking dog doesn’t bite. And the retort, you and I know it but the dog doesn’t.
By the way, where is that Gra?
This is really freaky. I remember learning a little about them in gemera ( yes my HS taught gemera to girls). This is freaking me out and I just woke up, can’t read anymore!
That reminds me of the saying, a barking dog doesn’t bite. And the retort, you and I know it but the dog doesn’t.”
Not to get OT, but according to the laws of aerodynamics, the structure of a bumblebee’s body is such that it is impossible for it to fly. But the stupid bumblebee doesn’t know anything about aerodynamics, so he goes and flies anyway!
Now to get back ON topic – this IS scary stuff. i really thought that a mezuzah was a shmirah against such things, and now you are saying, NO?
I think that their a real sheid in some of their schools who take away children’s shoes.
cholent guy: Yes, but he recovered only because the Rabbanan davened for him.
Besides, I don’t think that it is sage to literally interpret a Gemara like that, the Gemara was written almost two thousand years ago, people had a different way of thinking and writing.
That is why we need the Meforshim to help us out.
Here’s a couple of Kushyos. One of the ways a Sheid is similar to an angel is that it can appear in many forms, so why those foot prints? Also, since they can fly, we know from the Sugya of Joseph Shida, why the prints? Third, if they’re all over the place why only at night and around the bed? And lastly, why ash and not flour?
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