Saying Mored Hatol and Vsein Brocho 100 Times

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  • April 10, 2012 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #602871
    shmoel
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    Which word does one start and end with when saying mored hatol and vsein brocho 100 times, in order to avoid needing to repeat shemone esrei if he forgot whether or not he said mored hatol or vsein brocho within the first 30 days of the change?

    April 10, 2012 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #867201
    yungerman1
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    ??? ?? ???? ?????? ?????….?? ??? ?????

    April 10, 2012 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #867202
    Bar Shattya
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    I don’t think you have to say Al Pinei

    April 10, 2012 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm #867203
    147
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    Recite as follows:-

    “Mechaye Meisim Attoh Rav leHoshia Mechalkel Chaim beHessed”

    I already did so on 1st morning of Pesach, when I returned home from my synagogue.

    April 11, 2012 12:45 am at 12:45 am #867204
    shmoel
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    If you said it wrong, and realize it while still saying Shemone Esrei, how much later can you go back to it (without having to restart S”E)? And where do you go back to?

    And if it is too late and you have to restart S”E, do you stop wherever you are currently holding in S”E and immediately start it over, or do you first finish the paragraph you are currently in middle of (even if it has Hashem’s name still) and then restart?

    April 11, 2012 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm #867205
    shmoel
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    And if one said mored hageshem instead of mored hatol, and didn’t realize it in time to either repeat S”E then or at the next tefila, is it as if he had skipped S”E and didn’t daven that tefila altogether?

    April 11, 2012 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #867206
    YW Moderator-42
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    If you realize before saying Hashem’s name in “baruch ata Hashem mechayeh hameisim”, you go back to “ata gibor”. Otherwise you have to go back to beginning of shmona esrei.

    For v’sein bracha, iff you rememberr before Hashem’s name then go back to “v’sein bracha”, otherwise go back to begining of bareich aleinu. If you said “y’hyu l’ratzon”, you have to go back to begining of shmona esrei.

    April 11, 2012 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #867207
    shmoel
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    If you have to go back to the beginning, do you stop in middle of whatever brocho you are in or do you first finish that brocho and then go back?

    April 12, 2012 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #867208
    cheftze
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    If you realize in middle that you have to restart Shemone Esrei, I would think you immediately stop in middle of whatever brocho you are in midst of and start from the beginning of Shemone Esrei. It would seem that to finish the brocho would be a brocho l’vatala.

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