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If two Yidden pass each other, one on the way to Motzei Shabbos Maariv and the other coming home from it, how should they greet each other? Gut Shabbos or Gut Voch?
And what if one doesn’t know if the other is coming or going to Maariv?
Either say “A Guten” – like we say starting Mincha time (because Moshe rabinu was niftar then)
or simply say Gut voch– the words itself are not a mavdil– it is just like saying Gut Shabbos or Ereve shabbos when walking to shul…
It never hurts to greet someone 🙂
If its moitzie shabbos for you , you say good woch, if it’s shabbos for you you say good shabbos
If your a snob, no matter if it’s shabbos or moitzie the Halacha says you don’t say anything.
I think that it is stated that from Mincha, you should not greet anyone gut shabbos
How about simply “hello?”
The Wolf
Similar situation in Eretz Yisrael, when they have Chol Hamoed and Chutzniks have Yom Tov.
A random hello would freak me out! Good shabbos is parev for anyone random that you don’t know but hello is too freakishly personal… If you know them then fine but if you don’t please don’t start saying hi to people you don’t know, it’s better not to say anything If it’s assur to ash good shabbos…;)
Somehow, saying a simple “Hi” on Shabbos feels a bit out of place. Shabbos seems to ask for more.
A random hello would freak me out! Good shabbos is parev for anyone random that you don’t know but hello is too freakishly personal… If you know them then fine but if you don’t please don’t start saying hi to people you don’t know, it’s better not to say anything If it’s assur to ash good shabbos…;)
You know, I say “hello” to just about everyone and anyone I meet.
But then again, we’ve already established that I’m a horrible person who is, at best, a naval b’rushus haTorah and more likely just a plain old evil, rotten person, so I guess what I do doesn’t really matter anyway.
The Wolf
If u cant say hi then just smile and mumble something.
wolfish I dont like reading all that Loshon Horah about urself. Not because Im such a saint but because I think ur so smart and awesome so stop already. It cant b healthy even tho ur kidding.
because I think ur so smart and awesome
Thank you for the kind words and concern.
even tho ur kidding.
I am not kidding. If I were, I would make it clear with the use of a smiley or in some other obvious way.
The Wolf
OMG now ur scaring me! Is this really how u see urself?!
“a horrible person who is, at best, a naval b’rushus haTorah and more likely just a plain old evil, rotten person”
Um, does anyone here on coffeeroom think the Wolf is accurate in his self analysis?
Um, does anyone here on coffeeroom think the Wolf is accurate in his self analysis?
Considering the fact that no one on these boards (aside from myself) knows me personally, how could anyone (again, aside from me) possibly know whether it’s accurate or not?
The Wolf
We can judge ur coffeeroom personality, if that makes u feel better.
We can judge ur coffeeroom personality
Well, based on my coffeeroom personality, I would freak out more_2. Isn’t someone who would freak out someone a horrible person?
The Wolf
WolfishMusings
The Wolf
We can judge ur coffeeroom personality
Well, based on my coffeeroom personality, I would freak out more_2. Isn’t someone who would freak out someone a horrible person…
The Wolf
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What makes them horrible??
The Wolf, thanksb for the good laugh! I love you!
About saying Good/Gut Shabbos after Mincha:
By Shabbos Mincha, we say Tzidkoscha which contains 3 pesokim of Avelus because at that time, Yaakov (I think, or maybe it was Yosef. Will check later), Moshe and Dovid were Nifter. This is why on No Tachnun days we don’t say Tzidkoscha, because its a sign of Avelus. This is where the minhag of not saying Gut Shabbos after daveningMincha and saying Tzidkoscha. So on a Shabbos when its not said, youbcan say Gut Shabbos.
About greeting people with hello or hi, in Eretz Yisroel everyone says Shalom, which means hello (as well as goodbye, peace, a name, Hashem’s name and more…)
And about between Shabbos and Motzei Shabbos (or anytime really) how about Ah Gutten Tomid (A Good Always)!
Ah Gutten Tomid!
2scents – I also heard that some don’t say good shabbos from mincha time (not my minhag), do you happen to have any source for that? I did a little searching and couldn’t find much, other than it is a chabad minhag.
“If its moitzie shabbos for you , you say good woch, if it’s shabbos for you you say good shabbos”
I think it’s the other way around: The fellow going home from an earlier maariv should say to the one who is going to shul “have a good Shabbos” since it’s still Shabbos for him. On the other hand, this fellow who is going to shul to maariv, should wish the fellow who is going home “have a good week” since Shabbos is over for him.
cherrybim,
Thats because you are a caring person. But in reality people mostly think of themselves and their status. The guy who is going to later mariv is probably thinking what is this guy doing coming home so early its still shabbos! So he reminds him by saying Gut Shabbos. 🙂
The same thing is when I come home from shul on friday after kabalas shabbos and meet other people still on their way to shul or even on their phones or driving etc, a long time before they will be mekabel shabbos. I just nod at them to acknowledge. I cant wish them a good shabbos. Or can I?
You shouldn’t be greeting the other person at all unless he is a very close friend or an immediate relative. Anyone else, you are just supposed to stare them up and down as you go past, which is the same for shabbos and motsoai shabbos. If the other person greets you first, you just act puzzled and say, “ich kenst dir fun vainekkin?” Again, no difference whether its shabbos or not.
If it happens to be a close relative or friend, you can call his house later and explain what happened.
I used to say, “Gut shabbos, gut woch, whichever you prefer” to anyone I passed. Sounds a little funny, but it’s the best solution I could think of!
I cant wish them a good shabbos. Or can I?
Why not? If I see someone on Friday and I know I’m not going to see them again until after Shabbos starts (or even finishes), I wish them a “good Shabbos.”
If you can do that when it’s a weekday for everyone, why can’t you do it when it’s only a weekday for one?
The Wolf
On Friday you should be wishing ah gut Erev Shabbos.
By the way, its Yosef, Moshe and Dovid
Wolf you didn’t answer my question. What a pity;)
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