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I am curious as to how much elementary school tuition is in your city.
Please respond with Boy/Girl School, City and Amount. (If you would like to mention the school name that is fine.)
Thank you!!!
With the scholarship or without? Including mandatories, like dinner, or excluding?
8000 for Bais Yaakov type elementary school in Bklyn incl reg and dinner
3800 for Chassidish Girls School in Brooklyn, including transportation, registration, and building fund.
EarlyBird
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“3800 for Chassidish Girls School in Brooklyn, including transportation, registration, and building fund.”
unbelievable, sounds like a public school tuition to me.. I can understand why…LOL since what exactly are you paying for? I hear chassidic schools are babysitting services, and the learning there can easily be mastered in the hoime. the 3800 you are paying is basically feeding the belly’s of the unqaulified teachers that are passing illitraacy onto the next generation. sth has to be done about it. narrowmindedness is NOT yiddishkiet! ok in the shtetlech back in Europe when the pple were not associated with the outside world that was oone thing they could afford to be sheltered, however in our day and age, children have to be aware of the spiritual dangers out there and how to deal with them in a manner that is acceptable. I’m not saying you have to copy the Umas haolom I am saying you pple have to realise that your children are suffering in the ‘underground’ and doing all sorts of illegal things since they are smacked up and putched into the chassidishe relm of meshugassem. and they can’t cope outside the cave that their ‘shittos’ have created. And I repete;- That is NOT yiddishkiet!!
I wouldn’t even pay 2 bucks for an education like that! the almighty has given alot of these people inteligent minds and they waste it with thier meshugassim!!! shame where some of the world’s come to!!!! people are blinded by the wrong things!!
List price – $11,500 Bais Yaakov type elementary in Monsey, including registration & building fund, dinner extra. Worth every penny!
more – I think your comment is extremely uncalled for.
More,
you seem to have quite a lot to say about the chassidishe education… I wonder if you ever dealt with someone who was educated in these schools.
I myself went to a chassidishe school and I think my english is at least slightly better than yours, from what I can tell by your writing style.
Our children are sheltered from negative influences, not from education. They can read and write English, they know Math, Science, History, etc. just as well as any other school. Most chassidishe schools take all regents and they get good grades compared to other schools.
The reason why tuition is so much cheaper in chassidishe schools is because it is a chassidus, and the chassidim all chip in to keep the school running. They don’t get all funding from tuition.
EarlyBird- “The reason why tuition is so much cheaper in chassidishe schools is because it is a chassidus, and the chassidim all chip in to keep the school running. They don’t get all funding from tuition.”
that’s very commmendable! I’m impressed by that achdus.
“you seem to have quite a lot to say about the chassidishe education… I wonder if you ever dealt with someone who was educated in these schools.”
plenty of them. on the side I deal with alot of kids at risk, majority coming from chassidishe backgrounds…
“I myself went to a chassidishe school and I think my english is at least slightly better than yours, from what I can tell by your writing style.”
Your right, my writing style Here in the CR is def not up to par, however by saying that your writing style is better than mine, is absolute arrogance. yiddishkiet is about recognising your faults and building upon them, not denying it and sweaping it under the carpet, like various other aspects are within your relm. i’ve got nothing against you I’m just putting my views out there on the table feel free to disagree, I don’t have a problem with that. However I do have a problem with arrogance, and I will not tollerate it!
“Our children are sheltered from negative influences, not from education. They can read and write English, they know Math, Science, History, etc. just as well as any other school. Most chassidishe schools take all regents and they get good grades compared to other schools.”
Even though those types of schools offer those subjects, majority of them have show no interest in it and I know there is a lrge % of thm tht barely excell in them!, as a result they resort to habbbbits that are not healthy and sometimes unfortunately illegal! they hold that everything outside the yiddishe velt is garbbbbage and that these subjects are only taken because it is required by the state. Again that is NOT yiddishkiet!
More:
You have anything against my education? I was schooled by one of your chasidishe schools. Learned spelling, grammar etc. I wholly agree to what ‘Early Bird’ says. In fact very often even secular education of chasidishe yeshivos /schools surpass those of the public school system.
More,
Based on your fairly horrible attitude, I can hardly believe that you could do anything positive with kids at risk.
I would be more ready to believe that you might be their supplier, than beliveing you have anything positive to provide. You sound a lot like a footseps type of guy.
How about everyone just pretend there is an ignore button and continue the discussion. Honestly, I don’t understand why people give so much importance to such a bigoted response.
Perhaps someone can give advice to more on how to start a separate thread.
In fact very often even secular education of chasidishe yeshivos /schools surpass those of the public school system.
Whoopie! !@#$%^& unions are in charge of public schools.
As a side point, the 3800 doesn’t include all of the voucher monies gotten from the city/state for “After school care” which goes straight to tuition. That is why there was such an uproar when Bloomberg wanted to cut Priority 7 vouchers, all the “low tuition” schools are living off of it. That’s not even bringing in the schools that have official “CONTRACTED CHILD CARE” from the city, but (I imagine) always seem to be full when someone outside wants to join.
Can a Mod delete more’s post and the responses to him, so this thread can go back on topic?
Tuition – How much do you pay?
Too Much
18,000 in Nome, Alaska. Not including mandatory whale blubber dinner.
more: your comments are extremely uncalled for and are also wholly untrue. the reason the chassidishe schools charge less for tuition is not because it costs substantially less to educate a child in that system but rather because in chassidishe communities the ENTIRE community gets involved in supporting the educational system. This is not dissimilar to the catholic school system which relies on funding from the Archdiocese which is supported by all Catholic and the public school system which relies on taxing the entire community. The non-chassidic schools expect only the parents of the kids in the school to support the system thereby converting the right every child has to a jewish education to a privilege that you are entitled to only if you can afford it. Our schools have a lot to learn from the chassidim and apparently, so do you.
Can a Mod delete more’s post and the responses to him, so this thread can go back on topic?
here is out of town – lower school tuition – 13000 including building fund but without mandatory raffle/dinner ad (500 per child) selling plus scrip cards/shopping – $5000.
Middle school is over 15000. there are scholarships but you still have to pay a nice percentage of it. We have a net income of about 55 and we pay over 11000 tuition.
Since this has devolved into a debate about Chassidic secular education, can anyone name any Chassidic schools that are proud of their secular studies department? I’d be interested to know.
I’m not sure why everyone is blasting “more”, even if his comment may have been uncalled for. He’s certainly correct about not sweeping things under a rug, and I cannot personally recall meeting any chassidic-educated person who, straight out of school, could speak English as properly as his/her non-Chassidic counterparts. I’m sure there could be, and there are certainly many successful Chassidic-educated business-people.
The point is, though, is that $3,800 getting you a real education, so it is a basis for comparison for this discussion, or is it essentially babysitting as he alleged, in which case it is not comparable to the other schools which have serious secular studies departments?
Choleh In most jewish schools around the globe, you pay what you can afford. If you can pay full tuitionkol hakavod. However i would say majority of the yeshivishe velt does not pay adeqaute tuition think about it, if youve got 12 kids in school each costing 12000$ min a year thats 144,000$ in total most people dont even make that kind of income in ayear. Think about it… The question your asking is irrelavant. The question you do have to evaluate very carefully before making a decision , no matter how much you are going to be dishing out is, what are you going to be paying for… That is what it all boils down to at the end of the day.
more_2: Not so. Perhaps people want to be able to pay full tuition. I know plenty of people who do try to pay as much tuition as possible in order to save the tuition fund for people who need it more than they do. I believe that in some cases it can actually be considered giving tzedakah.
That was not a psak. That was what I heard somewhere.
My parents always tried to pay full tuition, but I now go to a school with somewhat higher tuition and my parents are now somewhat annoyed that they need to be on the receiving end.
writersoul-where did I say people don’t try to pay full tuition? I said that people that have a number of kids in school it is impossible for them to even think aboout paying full tuition. I also said kol hakavod to those that are capable of paying full fees, because majority unfortunately cannot. Also the focus shouldn’t be on where is the cheapest school, since pricing can always be worked out and negotiated farely so that it’s a win win situation for both the school and the parents. being frum yidden, the focus should be on where is the best place for your children where are they going to be educated the best.
My kids were on scholarship and we kept a record all the years. When we came into some Yerusha money we made donations to the schools to “repay ” the scholarship. Not a bad plan so we can feel we paid and Yeshivos can be forced to raise less…… and not for me!
OOT K8 Tuition and fees = $13,500.
School has both genders, but separate classes.
About Chassidish education:
I have met some with good skills and some with out good skills. I think it depends on a lot of factors, including:
1) Which Chassidish group – some are more appreciative of secular education
2) Male or female – I found females often have better secular education than males
3) Which generation
4) Family values of education
I have found that some of the much more expensive schools have a “wonderful” secular program, but the students seem to be missing many of the basic limudei kodesh knowledge. Students seem to graduate with less knowledge than third graders in a chasidish yeshiva have.
My observation is anecdotal, of course, but it would seem to me that there is a far greater difference in the level of leimudei kodesh between the two schools than there was in the secular studies. And the tuition was a six times more in the not chassidish school.
more/more_2 (which are you anyway?): Sorry if I misunderstood you. What I meant was that it is worth it to look for a school where you can pay full tuition (after considering, of course, the quality of the school).
choleh-
“More_2, Your comment is irrelevant because you did not answer the original question. “-
a coffee room is not a question answer forum, it’s a discussion, not a dictation.. I’m sure most people will agree with that. my comment is not irrelevant as it fits into the topic that you have brought up. If you choose to disagree with my opinions that is fine, but to say it’s irrelevant makes no sense… sorry.
my brother in special ed yeshiva four years ago it was $44,000.00…today even more!
the hoime.
the belly’s
the unqaulified teachers
passing illitraacy
that was oone thing
And I repete
people inteligent minds
I am not so sure that you are qualified to comment on literacy although it is possible these are just typos. I have trained people with a Satmar education and have found them to be exceptionally well trained both in their english skills and in their office demeanor and secretarial skills.
I have a friend that went to a chasidishe school and then wanted to go to sem in EY. When she went for the interview that principal was shocked at how this girl knew more than the BY type aplicant.
I think there is a misunderstanding about the education in chasidishe schools.
More of a modern yeshiva day school where my sister goes is 20,000 a year K-8.
We pay 18,000 for our daughter. And for our son we pay 25,000 -It’s most definitely well worth it!!!!
If the parents care enough about education inwhich they should you can get an education anywhere I suppose. However majority in those circles do not. I think that’s where it boils down to and that’s where the gripes fall on the education system where in reality it’s really the parents that veto it and rather ignorance. Thats most probably why you have some intellectual types coming out of those chassidish school systems, I’ve yet to come across one. I am awaiting the day that I do. So that my perception of them can turn around a full circle.
Seeallsides: No need to worry about my qualifications. I’m def nt worried about it snd so you shouldn’t either!
All I can say is by dealing with alot of young adults From within those sects I am rather grateful for what I’ve got, BH!
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