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October 5, 2011 1:16 pm at 1:16 pm #599776always happy27Participant
what type of place is it? are the guys there really good guys? are the rebbeim very warm? is it a place for 1st year bm?
October 5, 2011 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #815123sam4321ParticipantYes Tomo is a very good yeshiva,the learning is top notch.(did not go there had friends who went there)
October 5, 2011 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #815124ToiParticipantjust make sure you dont get “mo’d”
October 5, 2011 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #815125yungerman1ParticipantToi- Ha! Thats the word on the street. I hear its a very good place that accepts guys from all backgrounds, not just the typical in-town yeshiva guy.
October 6, 2011 12:24 am at 12:24 am #815126aries2756ParticipantToMo is a place for serious learning. If that is your intention then you should check it out. All sorts of boys go there, and those who are very serious can be there for years.
October 6, 2011 3:24 am at 3:24 am #815127doodle jumpParticipantWhat does TOMO stand for?
October 6, 2011 3:30 am at 3:30 am #815128popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhat does TOMO stand for?
TOrah, Modern Orthodoxy.
(I think it stands for Toras Moshe)
October 6, 2011 3:41 am at 3:41 am #815129mommamia22ParticipantIsn’t Toras Moshe an elementary school in Queens?
October 6, 2011 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm #815130ItcheSrulikMemberThat’s funny. I first heard about it from an MO guy who said it was charedi. I guess no one wants to be responsible for it? 🙂
BTW, it is not to be confused with Torath Moshe the dor-de’i Yemenite yeshiva.
October 6, 2011 1:24 pm at 1:24 pm #815131Sam2ParticipantIt’s Rabbi Maiselman’s Yeshivah. It is very much not MO but probably not quite Chareidi enough for the complete Chareidim to be happy with. I never spoke to any of the Rebbeim but everyone I knew from there loved the learning and the Chevre there (except for one guy who just didn’t fit in, and yes he was too modern).
October 6, 2011 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #815132popa_bar_abbaParticipantAdmittedly, I am not the most knowledgeable about this yeshiva.
My impression is that it is a serious learning yeshiva, and that many of its students continue to modern orthodox institutions. Like YU for example.
I spoke to someone whose brother knows someone who was thinking of going there.
October 6, 2011 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #815133yungerman1Participantpba- I havent heard that people continue on to YU. Rather many continue on to the Mir or BMG.
The YU connection is that R’ Meiselman is the nephew of R. JB Soloveitchik ztl. Also, “The staff includes two students of Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik: Rabbi Moshe Twersky (a grandson of Rabbi Soloveitchik) and Rabbi Michel Shurkin”. (from wikipedia)
October 6, 2011 1:44 pm at 1:44 pm #815134Sam2ParticipantA few go to YU. Most don’t go to college from my understanding though.
October 6, 2011 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #815135Sam2ParticipantYungerman: I am hoping that it was just because you didn’t want to type out more, but it is both offensive and insulting when you say “R. JB”.
October 6, 2011 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm #815136MiddlePathParticipantAs everyone here has said, it is a wonderful yeshiva with high level learning. The rabbaim are warm and knowledgeable. The students come from all types of backgrounds. I know guys that have gone from there to YU and I also know guys that have gone from there to Ner Israel and other more yeshiva-oriented places. I myself have not gone there, but I know many who have.
October 6, 2011 2:27 pm at 2:27 pm #815137yungerman1ParticipantSam2- Sorry. R’ YB. And I did include “ztl” above.
October 6, 2011 2:30 pm at 2:30 pm #815138YW Moderator-80Membersam 2
read his post again
B is his middle initial
he referred to him as “R. JB Soloveitchik ztl.” if you keep on reading past the end of the line
October 6, 2011 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #815139Sam2ParticipantRav Soloveitchik during his life was strongly against people referring to Roshei Yeshivah by their initials, which was a common way to refer to respected academics 50ish years ago. He felt that Roshei Yeshivah should be above that. It’s sad that somehow many people have decided to now refer to him by his initials like that.
October 6, 2011 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #815140yungerman1ParticipantThanks Mod-80 and popa!
October 6, 2011 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #815141YW Moderator-80Membersam he didnt refer to him by his initials
he referred to him by his full name including his middle initial and including a term of respect and Brocha: ztl
did the Rabbi object to someone including the middle initial when referring to Roshei Yeshivah?
i think, as you are wont to do, you are not carefully reading other peoples posts.
please reread his post and my earlier post regarding his post.
if you are still having difficulties with this, please let us know
October 6, 2011 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #815142Sam2ParticipantM80: I read the whole thing. He still objected to that. That was the standard format. Think JRR Tolkein or CS Lewis. The example I know he objected to was “Rabbi YY Weinberg”. So yes, I think even in this case it’s an insult, even if it wasn’t intended as such.
October 6, 2011 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #815143YW Moderator-80Memberwell then i apologize
it never occurred to me in the slightest that Rabbi Soloveitchik would have been insulted by being referred to as :R’JB Soloveitchik ztl.
it never would have occured to me.
October 6, 2011 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #815144yungerman1ParticipantI’m going to stay on the sidelines and enjoy watching you two fight it out!!
And Sam2, I did apologize.
October 6, 2011 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #815145Sam2ParticipantI noticed Yungerman. And I apologize if I wasn’t clear in my first post exactly what I was protesting against. YB would be the same issue as JB to me, even if it less offensive for other reasons.
October 6, 2011 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #815146YW Moderator-80Memberyunger
were not fighting it out
i also apologized
totally due to my ignorance of what some people deem an insult
October 6, 2011 4:03 pm at 4:03 pm #815147hello99Participantsomeone once asked Rav Soloveitzik if he minds being referred to as JB. he responded that RJB would be preferable.
October 6, 2011 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #815148YW Moderator-80Memberyou can call me m-80 if you want
October 6, 2011 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #815149makMemberThat’s R’ M-80 Shlit”a 🙂
October 6, 2011 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #815150hello99Participantm80, do you have an explosive temper?
October 6, 2011 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #815151gavra_at_workParticipantFrom what I have heard, ToMo is possibly the top yeshiva in EY for boys straight out of high school (as opposed to staying a few years in BM in America & then going to Brisk/Mir).
October 6, 2011 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #815152popa_bar_abbaParticipantToMo is possibly the top yeshiva in EY for boys straight out of high school
Yes, the learning there is on a high level compared to many other American yeshivas in Israel.
Or so I hear from my friends brother’s friend who thought about going there.
October 6, 2011 8:08 pm at 8:08 pm #815153adorableParticipanthello99- what makes you think 80 has a temper? even though I would not be shocked. notice that you got no response for that post though.
October 6, 2011 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #815154YW Moderator-80MemberOF COURSE HE GOT NO RESPONSE!!!!
GRRR!!!!!
October 6, 2011 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #815155adorableParticipantlol
October 6, 2011 8:14 pm at 8:14 pm #815156shlishiMemberm80: Who fixed your caps-lock button?
October 6, 2011 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm #815157YW Moderator-80MemberWHO ASKED YOU SHLISHI!!!!!!
AAAARRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!!
October 6, 2011 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #815158YW Moderator-80Memberof course my sweet children
i have no place for anger within my soul
it is too filled with love, for anything else to be there.
i just wanted to show you how ugly anger can be
it was so hard for me to do it but my love knows no bounds
perhaps i was too harsh?
oh i surely hope not
goodness no
October 6, 2011 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #815159adorableParticipantare you calling us your children? wow what love to stranger. actually we arent strangers to you- you know who we are, but you are a stranger to us.
October 6, 2011 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #815160happiestMembermomma- don’t know if anyone answered you cuz didn’t read all the posts but TIFERES MOSHE is the name of the Queens yeshiva under the leadership of Rabbi Yaakov May.
October 6, 2011 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #815161YW Moderator-80Memberpopa
did you forget to take our medicine again this morning?
October 6, 2011 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #815162shlishiMemberIt’s painful to be able to read only half the conversation here.
October 6, 2011 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #815163popa_bar_abbaParticipantNo. I didn’t forget.
October 6, 2011 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #815164hello99Participantan m80 is an explosive firecracker.
October 6, 2011 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm #815165YW Moderator-80Memberi know
i got the reference
about the same as a cherry bomb id say
October 6, 2011 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm #815166hello99Participantm80: I expected that you got it, but apparently adorable did not.
October 7, 2011 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm #815167minyan galMemberWe must remember that, indeed, Mod80 (and his group of Mod henchmen -kind of like Robin Hood and his band of merry men) knows who each and every one of us is. Why he could have private investigators following us to see how we spend our daily lives. So, if you notice a stranger who seems to following you, just remember that it could be one of the Mod’s shlichim. Of course, the one following me would quite possibly fall asleep due to the monotony of my daily life.
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