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September 11, 2011 1:31 am at 1:31 am #599304TomcheMember
How does the minhag of putting ?????????? wine on your eyes and in your pocket work? How many times and where do you put it?
And what is the source and who adheres to this minhag yisroel?
September 11, 2011 2:21 am at 2:21 am #808277good.jewMemberThe Granat used to do it
September 11, 2011 2:22 am at 2:22 am #808278bein_hasdorimParticipantThree times at the sides of one’s eyes saying each time
mitzvahs Hashem Borah Me’iras Eynoyim.
We use our pinkys. I’m not sure if it’s cuz it’s more practical
or that’s the part of it.
Three times in each pocket (side by side) saying Zareinu V’chaspeinu Yarbeh Kachoil, V’chakochavim Baloyloh.
September 11, 2011 2:28 am at 2:28 am #808279bein_hasdorimParticipantTo put on the eyes is for Chivuv Mitzvah!
Pockets I guess chivuv Banim, & todays proper way of showing it $$$)
September 11, 2011 4:23 am at 4:23 am #808280TomcheMemberbein_hasdorim:
“Zareinu V’chaspeinu Yarbeh Kachoil, V’chakochavim Baloyloh” appears twice (once in begging and once at the end) in Hamavdil Bein Kodesh L’Chol. You put it in your pocket by both? And do you repeat “Hamavdil Bein Kodesh L’Chol” a third time, to repeat Zareinu V’chaspeinu Yarbeh Kachoil?
Also, you only put it in your pants pockets or your jacket pockets a well? And what do you mean by “side by side”?
And where does it say Mitzvahs Hashem Borah Me’iras Eynoyim?
September 11, 2011 5:18 am at 5:18 am #808281Sam2ParticipantTomche: I assume your confusion comes from the tough transliteration, but it’s in Tehillim and part of Shabbos Pesukei D’Zimrah.
September 11, 2011 5:20 am at 5:20 am #808282TomcheMemberWhen is it recited Motzei Shabbos?
(“Zareinu V’chaspeinu Yarbeh Kachoil, V’chakochavim Baloyloh” is part of Hamavdil Bein Kodesh L’Chol, which you say right after Havdalah.)
September 11, 2011 5:32 am at 5:32 am #808283Dont get me wrongMemberI saw people using index finger as well, so I guess there’s alota Minhagin how to go about it.
Also saw people putting wine on the back of the neck. (which I think comes from a Gemara that there’s a bone in the neck that takes nutrition only from the Havdala wine)
September 11, 2011 9:40 am at 9:40 am #808284600 Kilo BearMemberTo put it in your pocket is a segulah for your dry cleaner’s parnossa.
September 11, 2011 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #808285TumsMemberIs this a widespread minhag or a Chasidisha minhag?
September 11, 2011 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #808286bein_hasdorimParticipantDont get me wrong;
The Gemara says that there’s a bone in the neck that takes nutrition only from the “Seudas Melaveh Malka”
and that bone doesn’t disintegrate, and from that bone we will rise
T’chiyas Hameisim.
I don’t recall anything about that having a/t 2do w/ havdallah wine.
Tomche; we say it as I wrote it, separately not with ha’mav’dil.
Minhag is pants pockets, i put in my jacket pockets as well,
since i don’t want them feel left out. I’m caring, that way.
September 11, 2011 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #808287600 Kilo BearMemberThe bone is the etzem luz but I think the idea of havdolo wine for it came much later than the gemoro.
September 12, 2011 1:57 am at 1:57 am #808288golden momMemberback of the neck could be (no joke) that they had pain there there is something to put the havdolah wine on parts of the body that hurt or need a refuah in anyway! there is also a sugulah to put on the mouth of a child who doesnt speak yet (delayed) and u say st dont remember what
supposly alot of koach the hadolah wine
some even springle it by the door to their house 3x
September 12, 2011 2:45 am at 2:45 am #808289Dont get me wrongMemberTalking about Segulos… there’s an interesting Segulah I once heard to put Havdalah wine on warts…
September 12, 2011 3:11 am at 3:11 am #808290REALISTMemberMy (not to be taken seriously) kasha is:
Why are we putting the wine in our Shabbosdike clothing?
If we’re doing it for parnassa, it should be put in our work pants!
September 12, 2011 3:18 am at 3:18 am #808292golden momMemberyup i heard that too same like putting on parts of body that hurt
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