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Are there any circumstances where an animal such as a dog is subject to Skeela?
If it kills someone.
Isn’t an animal who killed a person, killed?
Yes. You do not want to know what those circumstances are. All I will say is that when Rubashkin went under I checked to see if we can eat from a cow that would be chayav skila as rumors of certain behavior on rural farms abroad are not 100% inaccurate.
Also if someone is roveah it.
pba: i’m pretty sure thats what 600k meant
Hello:
I agree.
600k: Why mention Rubashkin?
Please for us who are ba’al tschuvah and not ffb, tell us what skeeva is please.
skeela is a death by stoning.
An animal is chayav skila when three people who should know better decide that it’s a reincarnated lawyer.
the Mishna in Edios says that even a chicken that killed a baby is chayuv skeliah.
rebbi1: Just an ox.
We are always allowed to kill an animal that is threatening people.
This “reincarnated lawyer” story is certainly not enhancing how Orthodox Jews are viewed. We need to distance ourselves from such mystical practices.
On the other hand taking action to protect people from harm will enhance respect for us.
We must focus on what will cause the world to say as per Devarim 4:6 “only an understanding and wise nation…”
Zahavasdad, you are right. During the time of the giving of the Torah, an animal would have gotten Skila for going where it wasn’t supposed to (onto the mountain).
I only mention Rubashkin because when they went under, the kosher supply was threatened. I feared that without them and without any other dominant and reliable nationwide supplier, imported meat would come in from who knows where – including places where it is rumored that there are cattle (and even more so smaller livestock) that are chayavai skila.
The reincarnated lawyer story is very spurious. I thought the dead dog was allowed to lie already after the story was disproven. As usual, the coterie of leftist Jews and Orthoskeptics that dredge up garbage to cover for their own shortcomings did their usual and this dumb story is back in the news.
Dead animals are subject to sreyfa, usually when an amateur cooks them on a crummy barbecue grill or when someone forgets to put enough water in the cholent.
In such instances, people often want to give the cook skila but that’s ossur too.
Of course, the gemara in Sanhedrin makes it clear that animals are subject to the same judicial process as humans when it comes to being put to death by Bais Din. That would seem to indicate that an animal, just like a person, requires a Bais Din of ordained judges, which does not exist today.
The Wolf (who, according to the Mishna, can be killed by anyone at any time).
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