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  • #596844
    adorable
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    what would you tell someone as chizuk when they are grieving someone that is no longer in their life.

    #774067
    canine
    Member

    Too vague to answer. Why is the person no longer in his life?

    #774068
    adorable
    Participant

    use your imagination- some of you here have very wild ones…. cant get into it to much but a guy that she used to be close to us out of her life- her choice- she knew it was wrong and wants to move up in life but its still killing her. she misses him like nuts and its just so hard. I dont want her to go back to him so have to give her the support she needs

    #774069
    Pac-Man
    Member

    Is the person a relative or a (former) friend?

    #774070
    adorable
    Participant

    pacman- which person are you talking about?

    #774071
    aries2756
    Participant

    adorable, we go through what we go through for a reason and we don’t always know why. People walk through our lives for a reason as well. We learn something from different people and from different relationships. Sometimes it is that we should NOT have had that relationship and we know better for the future but we still needed to go through it to learn that. We learn something from everyone we meet and every experience we have. So we should appreciate all the friendships and all the relationships we experience. And we also need to appreciate the hardships we go through when the relationships end because that too is a learning experience for the future.

    Sometimes we gain understanding, compassion, patience, and other values from a relationship that wasn’t destined to last, but yet it did have meaning and was productive and purposeful while it lasted. So things happen for a reason and end for a reason. Hashem is in charge and he helps us through the good times and the bad, the ups and the downs and through all the bumps on the road.

    #774072
    Shrek
    Participant

    validate how hard it is.

    tell her how much you respect her decision.

    tell her that Hashem sees her efforts and is proud.

    tell her it’s normal to feel distressed & that you are there for her if she needs a shoulder to cry on.

    #774073
    believer
    Participant

    Out of her life because they fought? out of her life because they were nifter? out of her life because she moved away? out of her life because they r sik or nifter? out of her life because she didnt get along nd now they are not on talking terms? If your going to post put some details so we can actually follow what your talkinb abt and giv u advice. tnx

    #774075
    adorable
    Participant

    aries- thank you for the sound advice I think that makes sense. I know that she reads Garden of Emunah but I think it is bound to be a hard decision for her because its still raw pain. My heart hurts for her and I just hope she can keep to her decision.

    #774076
    observanteen
    Member

    adorable: I went through something similar to the situation you describe. Those weeks were sheer torture. I felt as if somebody has torn out a chamber of my heart. The healing process was painful and took a lot of emotional strength. What was most helpful to me, was a listening ear. No, you don’t have to fully understand what that person’s going through (if you do, then great). Try not to interrupt her when she unburdens to you. Just simply listen. Please don’t tell her she should stop thinking about him and move on. When anybody loses a close relative, the Torah tells us to sit shiva and discuss the niftar. Why don’t we just tell them to move on? Why do we dwell on the fact that they’re no longer here? Because it’s just impossible to “stop thinking” (as many “considerate” people advised me to do). We do think about them.

    BUT, we also have to learn to move on. Gently, try pulling her back to reality. Take her out to eat, go shopping etc.

    In my case, my friends were very anxious that I turn into my usual self and just go on with life. Thanks to that, my healing process didn’t take too long but was very, very painful. B”H, I’m now over with that (although there are still some fresh wounds and bruises).

    She knows she’s done the right thing. Try giving her chizuk, share your thoughts on the matter(you can reiterate your point a million times – she wants to hear how harmful and dangerous it was), and just be there for her. That’s what mostly counts.

    Hatzlacha Rabba.

    #774077
    adorable
    Participant

    obs- thank you your words really touched me. In this zechus, it should be easy for you to overcome it

    #774078
    amichai
    Participant

    be a good listener. (not always so easy). she might need to go over the same things of why she came to that decision. hatzlocha.

    #774079
    observanteen
    Member

    adorable: Amen, thank you. BTW, I was in a rush while I posted so it turned out a bit choppy. My situation wasn’t similar (the friend was my gender, pretty harmful though), only the feelings were.

    You’re saying you’re afraid she’ll go back to him. What prevented me from going back was the guidance and chizuk I constantly got. If she ever tells you that she’ll just text him “once”, or send a letter or any form of contact just to tell him “one important thing that’ll show him it’s over” please, PLEASE DON’T let her! She was drawn to him for a reason and the reason’s still there. She must sever ALL contact with him. Try giving her some of the love and care he showed her to compensate for that.

    B’hatzlacha.

    #774080
    adorable
    Participant

    I found 71 reason of why a girl should not talk to a guy. Thought they were really amazing. She says she has to read them over every night…

    #774081
    dunno
    Member

    adorable

    Why don’t you post it to help others here who might need it?

    #774082
    adorable
    Participant

    who changed the name of this thread?!?!?!? I dont think the mods will let it through but I can try. It is very helpful for ANYONE and EVERYONE out there…. trust me! will look for it soon

    #774083
    adorable
    Participant

    I realized that time heals…. I think there is nothing like it….it also pays to have good friends… thank you for your help keep it comign

    #774084
    adorable
    Participant

    guys any more suggestions?

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