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Heard from my son who is on the board of a Cheder:
They were discussing the mechanics, financial, administrative etc of a new resource room, when a participant observed
“all the children that need this are from families that have tuition ????? ??? issues”
No child has tuition issues. Some parents may, but no child does. To punish a child for a parent is unconscionable, regardless whether the parent is truly poor and unable to afford full tuition or is negligent.
Okay, I believe WMBB edited his OP from referring to children with tuition issues to now stating families with tuition ????? ??? issues. That is slightly less harsh, but my above response still stands. Children shouldn’t pay the price for the parents sins.
WMBB: I read. Thanks for CHANGING your opening post. The “observation” is mad if he is making his “observation” to punish the children.
WMBB: I am not a mod. You’re pre-edited OP was on the board before you edited it. I saw it. Then you edited it, which I saw thereafter. The question is why were you dishonest in challanging my initial response to you in this thread, when you knew I correctly responded to what you posted and you pretended you said “families” and “????? ???” when you did not?
Why would anyone want to leak ANYTHING discussed at a board meeting? It borders on many serious Lashon Harah transgressions.
WMBB: Obviously your editing crossed with my posting. When I responded I still saw your original wording.
busybody,
Being able to edit has nothing to do with your post being approved. There is a certain amount of time that you have to edit your post.
Apology accepted.
As to your (new) original question, if the point being made by the board member is to question whether these children should be accommodated with this resource room, then he is mad for the reasons I outlined in my initial responses. If the point of the board member was to simply wonder if there is a correlation between parents not having the proper ????? ??? and their children needing special resources as a result of them also neglecting their children’s needs, perhaps there is. But I don’t see what the board of directors can do about the latter scenario.
Lets get back on topic. Whether the parents are paying full tuition or none at all should have nothing to do with what the yeshiva offers in terms of what the students need. The yeshiva should be concerned with the success of EVERY child and that is what the board should concern themselves with. Whether the current slew of students who need this are in the low paying category or not, if it is needed that is a good enough reason to implement it. Do you know that in the future those that need it will NOT be full tuition students. These students are paving the way and opening the eyes of the board to a necessity in the school. WAKE UP and smell the coffee.
wellmeaning busybody – I will apologize for all smart-aleks in the CR. A Resources Room may not be appreciated until someone’s child is in need of one.
My thought in general is that at least half the people on these so called “boards” are phony, insincere “machers” who don’t give a ____ about anyone but their own family members. They should all take a deep look inside and realize that every decision they vote on has an impact on children whose futures are literally in their hands.
WMBB: Your apology was accepted for telling me to “read” (in capital letters) that you wrote “????? ???”, when that was not what you originally wrote.
BTW, how does this board member “know” that these families are not honestly unable to afford additional tuition, and “knows” that they have an insufficient amount of ????? ????
wellmeaning busybody:
I said “over HALF of the members of these so called ‘boards’ are….” I never said anything about YOUR HOLY SON being part of that percentage. I don’t know who your son is (and nor do I care to) so I can’t have an opinion about him. I will say however that the fact that “the board members are ADORED and WORSHIPPED” says the whole story.
wellmeaning:
How naive (or just plain stupid) of you to think that “all the board members have a pretty good idea of of their neighbors’ lifestyle”!
NOBODY (but G-d) knows these things. Shame on you!
I have plenty of tolerance for everyone (except murderers and rapists). You asked for our thoughts on the comment made at the board meeting so I gave you my thoughts. Just because I think you had a moment of naivete, or that many people on these schoold boards are phony, doesn’t mean that I don’t tolerate you or them.
I seem to be misunderstanding this whole thread, WMBB’s comment seemed to mean to me that she thought that the fact that the children who needed resource room seemed to come from families who were not moser mefesh to pay tuition possibly indicating a lesson for us if we chose to learn one. What did I miss or misunderstand to cause all the anger that is appearing above?
sorry, got mislead by the subtitle as yenta is usually used for a woman.
aries,
I disagree.
A school has to be financially responsible to the entire student body. If opening a resource room will take away necessary funding from the general student body and put enormous financial pressure on the school (where the school might not be able to function any longer), the school has to evaluate how to get funding.
If the parents of students who need extra resources cannot contribute, perhaps there are other programs that can help? It doesn’t often make sense for many schools to have small programs when if the kids with problems would concentrate in 1-2 schools, the resources could be greater and more cost effective.
There is nothing wrong with charging extra for additional resources, and even making that charge not subject to tzedaka scholarships is perfectly reasonable. If you don’t feel the charge is worthwhile, you are more than welcome to the standard schooling.
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