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February 18, 2011 5:11 am at 5:11 am #595117ZeesKiteParticipant
YOU HEVE BEEN WARNED!
February 18, 2011 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #743170ZeesKiteParticipantWhy do such senseless issues push me down?
February 18, 2011 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #743171canineMemberBecause you let them?
February 18, 2011 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #743172AinOhdMilvadoParticipantThe pasuk says “Va’yar HaSh-m… v’heenay tov me’od”.
HaSh-m, of course, in His infinite wisdom, can see that it is tov me’od.
We, in our extremely limited wisdom, have to strive to realize and understand this fact.
It is a big madraiga to attain.
February 18, 2011 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #743174RSRHMemberZees: THat may be R’ Miller’s view. Others have a different approach. R’ Hirsch argued that God intentionally created the world imperfect, and He want us to make it better. He created perfect conditions that we can use to make the world better, but the world is not as it should be. The Ramban in Bereishis alludes to a similar idea.
True, its not good to to be a grouch, bear a grudge, and generally be depressed at the state of the world. But that doesn’t mean we should think the owlrd is perfect; it obviously is not. Instead of talking about how bad thing are, however, we have to ACT to make them better.
February 18, 2011 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm #743175AinOhdMilvadoParticipantI don’t have a Chumash accessible at the moment, so I don’t know if any of the meforshim say this, but it’s pretty safe to assume that if little old me just had this thought, that at least some of our chachamim had it long ago…
(anyway here goes…)
The pasuk says HaSh-m saw “kol” and it was “tov me’od”.
Perhaps this means (seeing “kol”) that He saw the universe in it’s entirety, ALL that He had created, the WHOLE picture, so to speak, and seeing ALL, it was very good.
Our problem is, we do not see ALL.
We generally have a very limited view of things, and davka because we do NOT see “kol”, i.e. we do NOT see the whole picture, we may, mistakenly, not realize that the world is “tov me’od.”
As I said in my previous comment, it’s something we need to work on.
February 18, 2011 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #743176popa_bar_abbaParticipantWho is this Rabbi Miller?
February 18, 2011 3:42 pm at 3:42 pm #743177Pashuteh YidMemberZeeskite, there are people suffering terrible yissurin that are so difficult one cannot process what they are going through. Nobody really has the answers as to why some have it easy, and some have a constant struggle.
February 18, 2011 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #743181ZeesKiteParticipantPashuteh Yid: That is our job as a Yid. Truly feel for him/her and try to lighten ’em up.
WolfishMusings: This is one of my secret technics of getting to know all the anti-happy. (and you location is.. hold it, map it out..) Then we’ll strike with one..
February 18, 2011 6:00 pm at 6:00 pm #743182chayav inish livisumayParticipantyour zeeskiteness is overwhelming
February 18, 2011 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #743183GuardmytongueMemberno wolf – sit you in a room and make you watch three stooges movies!
(come to think of it, I’d probably rather be shot)
February 18, 2011 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #743184WolfishMusingsParticipantWolfishMusings: This is one of my secret technics of getting to know all the anti-happy. (and you location is.. hold it, map it out..) Then we’ll strike with one..
Go ahead. You’re welcome to come and do it.
And the word you’re looking for is “techniques.”
The Wolf
February 18, 2011 6:41 pm at 6:41 pm #743185ZeesKiteParticipantThanks for the word. I knew I was missing something!
February 18, 2011 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #743186☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantRSRH,
I don’t think the two interpretations are mutually exclusive.
All of the imperfections are planned precisely, hence the imperfect world is in fact a perfect world.
And the word you’re looking for is “techniques.”
A new human spellchecker! 🙂
February 20, 2011 1:03 am at 1:03 am #743188ZeesKiteParticipantpopa_bar_abba:
Who is this Rabbi Miller?
Let’s try. For one the word is ‘was’, he was nifter about 10 years ago. He was the famous Rabbi Miller from the famous Rabbi Miller tapes. I was an avid follower of his, greatly inspired by him. I went to a few of his shiurim. (don’t want to say how old I am yet, so let’s suppose Mommy took me in a carriage). He was the only Godol I knew that was so completely knowledgeable in both realms, gashmius and ruchnius. He was so accurately able to ‘teich’ (translate, Wolf-a better word?) the current events through Torah-eyes. It was truly something out of this world. His tapes number in the thousands.
February 20, 2011 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm #743192ItcheSrulikMemberWhat happened to my answer for popa’s question?
February 20, 2011 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #743193ZeesKiteParticipantRemote Tickle
February 20, 2011 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #743194HaLeiViParticipantWolf,
You’re still waiting? Hang in there.
February 23, 2011 4:53 am at 4:53 am #743197ItcheSrulikMembermoshe: Only melacha is chayav misah. To quote the gemara, zil kari bey rav.
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