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February 14, 2011 9:28 pm at 9:28 pm #595031maishe dovidMember
i am a yungerman at lakewood who just “came out of the freezer” and ready for my first date this thursday night. i am 26. the girl sounds wonderful with great midos.
my question is this. in spite of a great deal of checking, my parents just found out last night that the girl is not 20, but rather 25! she is also about 20-30 pounds overweight.
what should i do and can i cancel the shidduch if this new information is too much to handle.
i await your input
February 14, 2011 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm #740015gavra_at_workParticipantGo out. Worst case you will like the girl. Best case you did a Chessed by not breaking up.
(or is it the opposite?)
February 14, 2011 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm #740016ImaofthreeParticipantYou just started shidduchim at the age of twenty SIX? I thought most guys start at twenty three at the latest.
Look at the other details about this girl and if you like what you hear maybe you can give it a try. Twenty five is really not too old for a twenty six year old, is it?
February 14, 2011 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #740018TheGoqParticipantare your parents new at this? sounds like they didnt investigate well enough
February 14, 2011 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm #740021fabieMemberPlease clarify. Is this before your first date, then there is no real major issue in cancelling on the one hand, and on the other no real major issue of going out; or are you engaged, which is a major issue.
BTW, 26-25 isn’t so terrible.
February 14, 2011 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #740023yossi z.MemberCall the shadchan on their misinformation is what I would say is the first step. Second step is to think do these issues really bother you that much?
Don’t EVER just jump and act
😀 Zuberman! 😀
February 14, 2011 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #740024real-briskerMemberIs this information to break a shidduch – I dont know, thats up to you. But if it was a reason to break it, I don’t see why it will be less of a reason if you only found out now.
February 14, 2011 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #740025Pashuteh YidMemberIf the girl is not too far, why not be a mensch and go out with her? What do you have to lose?
February 14, 2011 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm #740026trak443Participant1. you don’t know who lied. the girl or the shadchan. if it looks good on paper, go out. if she lies when you ask her, her age, that’ll tell you what type of person she is.
2. her weight. so what? if you marry skinny and she gains weight after she gives birth, then what’ll you do?
i personally had a list of physical features i would absolutely not go out with. my wife was everything i said i would NEVER marry.
February 14, 2011 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm #740027ItsJustMyOpinionMemberFirst of all the age should definitely not be an issue. The weight? Why don’t you go and see for yourself. That being said, you’re 26 and you haven’t gone out yet?! That is something that might be a strike against you. Don’t add any more strikes by being the guy that said no after saying yes, but before meeting.
If not for anything else, it’s time you get your feet wet. What’s the worst that can happen?
February 14, 2011 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #740028HadaLXTPMemberMaishe Dovid: Yungerman Or Bachur?
Although I haven’t been in the “Freezer”, I have been in the same situation. Most if not all Shadchanim give a little different description then the truth. I have come to realize that no one can be trusted when it comes to looks and sometimes age. Of the 2 or 3 girls that I “liked” in my dating experience, turned out not to be what I was looking for looks wise. My advice is to give it a try and not necessarily blame the girl by canceling the date.
Be’Hatzlacha Rabbbah and may we hear wonderful news soon.
\Gam Zu L’Toivah//
February 14, 2011 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm #740031JamParticipantFirst of all, whats wrong if she is 25? YOU ARE 26!!!!! The age fits. Why would you look to go out with a girl thats more than a half a decade younger than you!?!?
About the weight, you really have to be careful because often poeple exagerate or interpret things differently.
Also, you should definitely consult your LOR before canceling a date that you already agreed upon, it’s not a simple issue….
( My sister was once scheduled to go out with a guy for a 2nd date. A day before the date my parents found out information which clearly indicated the shidduch wasn’t for my sister. They asked a Rav and he said that you cant back out on your word, and she should go out)
February 14, 2011 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm #740032cocacolaMemberGO OUT WITH THE GIRL!! NO ONE IS PERFECT! OK.. SHES OVER WEIGHT.. YOU DONT KNOW EXCACTLY HOW BIG SHE IS AND IF YOU FEEL RLY UNCOMFORTABLE THEN YOU WILL END IT AFTER THE FIRST DATE BUT ATLEAST GIVE HER A CHANCE. THE FACT THAT YOU DIDNT KNOW HER AGE IS QUITE ODD BUT THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED FOR VARIOUS DIFFERENT REASONS. EVERYONE DESERVES A FAIR CHANCE IN LIFE.. NOT TELLING YOU TO MARRY HER, BUT JUST GIVE HER A CHANCE..
February 14, 2011 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm #740036doodle jumpParticipantThis information is not too much to handle. Why would you ever want to hurt a girl’s feelings? She is looking forward to going out. Also, who says that the girl was not being honest? Maybe the shadchan was not honest. Maybe there could be tens of other reasons.
Go out. Have fun. obviously you were not meant to know that piece of information until now. You did say that your parents did extensive checking. Hatzlacha.
February 14, 2011 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm #740037popa_bar_abbaParticipantI am not a troll! Why do all you people need to be so prejudiced against me just because I am 26??
Whoa. Who’s being prejudiced?
February 14, 2011 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm #740038☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantpba,
I didn’t know it took so long to recover from a caffeine overdose.
February 14, 2011 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #740039amichaiParticipantanother vote for going out. try it. she might be the one.
February 14, 2011 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #740040maishe dovidMemberi have been learning with great hasmada which is the reason that i have not dated until now. noone that i know dates before 24-25 so your statement about 23 is wrong
most of the guys in lakewood are looking for size 0-2 (whatever that means) and girls no older than 22
February 14, 2011 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #740041JamParticipant“no one that i know dates before 24- 25”
I don’t know who you know but I surely know many yeshiva guys who are married with a kid (or even 2) by the time they are 24-25. I also dont understand why learning with hasmadah is a reason to push off marriage these days, being that you will probably demand full support of the girl for the next 10…15… perhaps even 30 years, so that you can continue learning with hasmada.
February 14, 2011 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm #740042sof davar hakol nishmaMemberok you crack me up. you say most boys are looking for size 0-2 and they don’t know what that means? or you meant their MOTHERS are knocking that into them? sorry but many boys do start dating before 24.
February 14, 2011 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm #740043☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantnoone that i know dates before 24-25 so your statement about 23 is wrong
Are you an “alter Mirrer”?
February 14, 2011 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #740044AZParticipantMD:
i guess you don’t know to many guys in lakewood…
As of last year, more than 28% of the boys in BMG had gotten engaged or married before the age of 23. That is clearly a significant number. (of course as that number gets higher the crisis will be further alleviated.)
in the last few years many many boys who began dating close to 23 (or older) are dating and marrying girls their own age.
February 14, 2011 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm #740045bptParticipant25? not a problem
20-30 lbs overweight? not a problem
Boys who think they “deserve” something? That’s a problem
My advice? Go back into the icebox for another 3 months and think about what it is that YOU have to offer, at 26, before turning anyone down.
February 14, 2011 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm #740046cocacolaMembera guy looking for a girl thats size 0-2 obviously is very immature and doesnt have his priorities straight!! you are allwed to say that you dont want to marry a really fat girl b/c you would feel uncomfortable with such a large person etc… but to say a specific size.. thats just not right! why do guys think they could be so picky!! ok.. so girls should say “we wont go out with a guy thats larger than a toothpick or older then 23”??.. i mean its all just rediculous! all i could say is DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS! everyones basheret was made for them.. and you’ll find them.. but if your gonna be so picky.. you just may not! lesson in life maishe dovid: NO ONE IS PERFECT.. NOT EVEN YOU! no matter what your mother tells you! 🙂
February 14, 2011 11:18 pm at 11:18 pm #740047AZParticipantThis is in all likelihood a false thread.
1. Boys who are real masmidim to the extent that they put off shidduchim, would most likely not refer to themselves and “having been learning with great hasmada’
2. A boy who has put off dating do to his sincere dedication to learning, would most likely NOT be posting on YWCR in middle of second seder!
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