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WHAT A CHUTZPA!!!
They raise the price on the weekend edition to $3!!!!
People cant put bread on their table and they have a Chuzpa to charge so much hard earned gelt for a newspaper? Dont they know we’re in a recession
I would rather buy a daily ‘goish’ newspaper that cost me only $0.50
JMHO
The HaModia is not a necessity, it’s a luxury. Why are you getting so worked up over what the charge for a luxury is? If it’s too expensive, don’t purchase it.
The Wolf
if you have a subscription it’s cheaper!
They have a right to charge as they wish. Dont like their price, dont buy it. I know I wont, nor would I buy their Binah
Wow!!
Phew i thought they published an article that wasn’t to your taste.. Chill!! It is like saying cheese cake went up in price. It is clearly not a necessity!!
Is Hamodia THAT important that you are all worked up over it?
misterhock – Firstly its not a chutzpa, you are not obligated to buy it if you dont want, they can charge whatever they want, if you wish to buy it gezunta heit if not there are many other jewish newspapers to choose from. Second – Nebach on you, you would be wiling to save one dollar and let SHMUTZ into your house! The goyisha newspapers are filled with such garbage I cant begin to comprehend how the difference to you isnt even worth a dollar!
misterhock – Whats the stirah?
I don’t think it’s a chuptza. It’s their right to charge what they want. It’s the customer’s choice to purchase the paper or not.
If you think they are charging too much, don’t buy it!
And what is wrong with a multimillion dollar profit-making business as long as it observes secular law and halachah? May there be more frum multimillion dollar profit-making businesses!
My real problem is because the Hamodia claims to be ‘The newspaper of Torah Jewry’
So what? It’s still a luxury. If it’s too expensive for you, don’t buy it.
when they are very clearly a multi million dollar profit making business.
They are a business producing a luxury item. Their purpose is to make money. I’m sorry if that disturbs you.
I’m curious as to what you consider to be an acceptable profit — and why that amount?
The Wolf
Like everyone else here, if you don’t like the price, don’t buy it. No one’s forcing you.
Be happy you can go and buy the daily edition while us out of town only get the Shabbos edition. Enjoy!
Of course we have daily newspapers….but not the Hamodia!
Misterhock,
I’m still curious to know what you consider to be an acceptable level of profit. If being a “multi million dollar profit making business”* is unacceptable to you, I then ask you what *is* an acceptable level of profit which you think they are entitled to earn — and how did you pick that number.
The Wolf
* This is leaving aside the fact that it is far from “very clear” that they are, in fact, earning multi-millions of dollars in profit and that you have brought no evidence that they are even in the black, let alone making millions of dollars.
You also might want to consider the fact that the average HaModia reader is not poor. According to their website, the average household income of their readership is $147,000.
If that’s their average reader, then perhaps $3.00 an issue isn’t so much after all…
http://www.hamodia.com/ourreadership.cfm
The Wolf
misterhock dont switch to a tumadik shmutzdik paper full of crumkeit and all the narishkeit of this world
switch to the yaated or jewish press
is it worth letting ur yiddisha kinder to be mushpa from an anti kadosh shmutzrag that can really mess ur kids up???
We get hamodia daily and think it is very worth it even if they raise the price slightly. Its good to have a CLEAN newspaper with fresh reading material.
And what is wrong with a multimillion dollar profit-making business as long as it observes secular law and halachah? May there be more frum multimillion dollar profit-making businesses!
Not the kind of statement I’d expect from a guy whose go-to example of anti-torah philosophy is Ayn Rand, but I’m happy to agree.
You can be a good frum Yid without reading any Jewish newspaper.
And out of NY is 4 dollars!!
Postsem – You can get an electronic weekday edition from them. See their website.
misterhock dont switch to a tumadik shmutzdik paper full of crumkeit and all the narishkeit of this world
switch to the … jewish press
Was this meant to be a joke?
Here he goes again
” a guy whose go-to example of anti-torah philosophy is Ayn Rand”
Anyone who thinks Ayn Rand’s philosophy is not anti-Torah is wrong.
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Which parts of her philosophy?
A=A?
Not taking government money to which you aren’t entitled?
In general, I object to using a person’s name as an example of bad reasoning or heretical philosophy. It positively reeks of strawman fallacy.
Mods: Can you put up the rest of charlie’s post, please?
Ayn Rand, born a Jew, was an outspoken atheist and hedonist. She found no purpose in the commandments to take care of the welfare of our fellows or respect the established relationships of others, and justified her self-centered behavior with elaborate logical arguments. She considered religion of all sorts to be contrary to reason. Her “Collective” of followers had many of the characteristics of a religious cult.
BTW HaShem tells us not to take government (or any other) money to which we are not entitled.
I’m not an objectivist and the debate about whether objectivism is a cover for sociopathy or not is not one I want to start since I honestly don’t care. I’ll readily grant that she was anti-Torah; I was just saying that people who use her name as a dirty word are generally not so fond of “multi-million dollar profit-making businesses.”
i was in a store this morning and someone saw the price increase and was furious
said he wont buy it now
So don’t buy it. Nothing earth shattering important in the hamodia that you won’t find anywhere else anyway.
did you see what they added to the magazine this week???
hello99
What are you referring to?
Dunno. Maybe they wrapped the Yated inside, accounting for the increase to $3.
‘Inyan’, ‘Binyan’, ‘Kinyan’ .. “the Enchanced Hamodia”
I buy the Hmodia every week. It’s an awesome newspaper.
This week they really enhanced it(permanently) & put the price up.
Every penny pays! It’s great.
“You can be a good frum Yid without reading any Jewish newspaper.”
cherrybim – true, but its harder if you go on the internet.
What’s new in Hamodia since the price change?
there is a new magazine inside that is fuller and printed on nicer thicker paper to compete with the new ami magazine I guess….
“I’ll readily grant that she was anti-Torah; I was just saying that people who use her name as a dirty word are generally not so fond of “multi-million dollar profit-making businesses.” “
I don’t think she is a dirty word. She was just a proponent of an anti-Torah philosophy that has snared many Jews for several generations now. It needs to be fought.
And as far as multi-million dollar profit-making businesses, I can’t understand why a frum Jew would oppose them as long as they operate within the bounds of secular law and halachah.
If their goal is to oust Ami, you can be sure, that if c”v successful their price will rise higher and service lower. No different than the established airlines selling dirt cheap tickets anytime another airline offers the same service. Then, once ousted, their price hits even higher.
At one point a cheap airline started offering decent priced tickets from NY to Pittsburg. The established companies, Continental.. lowered their tickets to $70 round trip including all taxes. Once they re-secured their route prices were higher than before.
Competition is good, for many reasons.
Does the Modia have a daily English version in N”Y? I haven’t seen this in E”Y.
Off topic. Where is Hamodia circulated that the avg income of their subscribers is $147,000? I wonder if Yeshiva administrators in the same markets would give the same number?
I doubt Hamodia is trying to trounce Ami, et al, as much as boost their circulation. I hope subscription prices won’t go up; they are keeping the new inserts non-glossy which should help.
But if people are willing to pay what they are for the weekly magazines, this new approach is quite understandable.
We get the weekend edition of Hamodia, not so much for the news as much as to show the kids where we stand.
Ami is not a subcription (yet) but we have gotten each issue so far.
And I absolutly believe the Hamodia reformatt was done in response to the Ami format.
Next up for Hamodia; a “comments” section on their webpage.
Without one, you’re sunk in 2011 as a serious news outlet
The Hamodia is a phenomemnal paper under the direction of Gedolim such as the Gerrer Rebbe and Rav Matisyahu Solomon Shlit”a As kosher as you can get.
The Hamodia perhaps should have been a profitable newspaper – but alas it is definitely not. True that the weekly edition makes money – but the daily loses money. So why continue printing it? Because that what these Gedolim want! Rav M. Solomon said it very clearly in a drosho 2-3 years ago at the Agudah convention, and I quote “The Hamodia is not another paper that you should buy – it is the ONLY paper you should have in your house”. Of course he was not refering to the Yated – he was refering to bringing in any other daily into your house.
The Hamodia and the Yated are wonderful papers that can be brought into any Yiddishe house – I can’t say the same for any other newspaper.
Of course we now B”H have these quality magazines e.g. Mishpacha, Ami, Binah, Zman, etc.
So there is B”H plenty of kosher reading material for you and your kids.
Sure it costs money to keep kosher. But other than for chinuch reasons – there is no reason to buy any newspapers and magazines. But chunuch is a powerful reason – regardless of what it costs.
So, fargin them the few cents – so that they can cover their increased expenses and stay afloat – for our sake and our kids sake.
yes,fabie we have an english daily hamodia here in the states
Rav M. Solomon said it very clearly in a drosho 2-3 years ago at the Agudah convention, and I quote “The Hamodia is not another paper that you should buy – it is the ONLY paper you should have in your house”. Of course he was not refering to the Yated – he was refering to bringing in any other daily into your house.
Why are you making an assertion that is clearly contradictory to what R. Solomon said?
The Wolf
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