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what is the halacha of loshon hara with teachers? i work in a school and lately i have been hearing rebbes talk about their students in a very negative way. im wondering what (if any) right do they have to just talk about the kids amongst eachother (meaning not to the principals etc)
It depends on whether there is a constructive purpose to their conversation and all the other factors relevant to toeles.
they certainly shouldnt be talking about their boys in front of you
and you shouldnt be listening.
the fact that it is with each other does not not make it Loshon Ha Rah unless they are not careful with the conditions of toeles
the shmiras haloshon organazation in eretz yisroel give out monthly magazines with stories and ques. on shmiras haloshon , etc. maybe you can get something like that, whatever they have by you, and leave it on the tables in the teachers room. they will pick up the message like that.
It should bother you.
At the same time, the rebbi may need to just talk out his aggravation. (Maybe suggest he go to therapy.)
So I am going to try again because I responded twice already and it was posted. According to what cofeefan said, it has no other purpose but speaking loshon horah and venting. This does the child no good at all and will only harm the child because the other teacher number one might repeat it to someone else and number two, will not form his or her own opinion on that child when the child gets into that teacher’s class. This is how a kid develops a reputation. If a mechanech needs to vent out of frustration s/he can do so without naming names!
Its no different than discussing the list of possibilities of why someone wasn’t accepted to a certain school, or why a potential shidduch didn’t work out. I’ve also heard these discussions and aside from it being pure lashon hara they only have negative effects. I was once in a smaller school (where teachers know all the students, even if they never taught them) where a teacher (not this childs teacher) said, “oh, so and so? shes so weird”. I know of another child who ended up with a bad reputation just from shmoozing his teachers did.
If anyone is in a position to institute some sort of shmiras halashon program in the teachers lounge in their school, it can help even one child, and yes, thats a big deal.
OMG! Right on target woaaaa do I wanna yell at all those teachers who think that because they are “staff” they can say and do whatever they want. They talk about students left and right and make everything that’s not quite litoeles into it and spit out abnoxious comments about whoever they feel like…k I’m just venting lol. No, but really they all have big mouths. k not all but most.
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