IMPORTANT: Phone Conference: Stopping the next expulsion

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  • #592381
    yosr
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    Phone Conference: The United Jewish Accords – Stopping the next expulsion

    Sunday, September 19

    2:30pm EDST (East Coast)

    Phone – 305 848 8888

    Pin – 3123565299

    The United Jewish Accord

    Coalition of Shuls, Organizations and Individuals unite to Oppose the Destruction of Jewish Communities in Judea, Samaria, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights

    We have not forgotten how-

    10,000 Jews were expelled from their homes, synagogues, schools and businesses

    We have not forgotten how –

    The areas, which were full of life and prosperity, were converted into terror training centers

    We have not forgotten how –

    The peaceful towns of Sderot and Ashkelon were turned into hell on earth due to the non-stop rockets

    We have not forgotten how –

    So many of us stood in silence as all this occurred

    We Thus Declare:

    Any attempt by the Israeli Government to destroy communities situated in the territories liberated in 1967 – Judea, Samaria, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights – shall be firmly opposed by the undersigned.

    Opposition measures shall include:

    For more info: [email protected]

    #696313
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Boycotts against Israeli Officials and Diplomats.

    Protests during events where Israeli Officials and Diplomats are invited.

    Protesting against Israel?

    What are you? Neturei Karta?

    #696314
    so right
    Member

    NK would support giving up the territories unlike this conference which is supporting the territories.

    #696315
    rebdoniel
    Member

    There is no mitzvah in supporting a government that is self-destructing, unless you hold like Rav Amital/leftists/Rav Ovadia Yosef/others who support territorial concessions for “piece,” pieves of Jewish bodies being sliced salami-style (to quote mori ve rabbi, HaRav Mordechai Yitzchok Freidman, the Tyrnava Rov).

    #696316
    Ben Torah
    Participant

    Your rabbi is a kahanist, so obviously he doesn’t agree with them. But mainstream rabbonim put pikuach nefesh ahead of land. (Of course the religious zionist always argue giving up land is pikuach nefesh, but the mainstream rabbonim unaffiliated with zionism acknowledge that giving land can save lives.)

    #696317
    rebdoniel
    Member

    What about Tosafos to Avodah Zarah 20a, which forbids giving away any part of Eretz Yisroel to goyim? Ramban forbids any part of the land from falling to goyim, a shita which most on the anti-disengagement side of the argument generally base their shitas on, whether Rav Goren, Rav Shapira, Rav Aviner, Rav Kook, or others. Of course, those who support disengagement are not without standing, but overall, disengagement is damaging to the safety and sovereignty of the state of Israel, which is of great halachic importance. All of Merkaz HaRav cannot be incorrect, and they have upon whom to rely in opposing disengagement and territorial concessions to goyim that happen to be our sworn enemies.

    #696318
    yechezkel89
    Member

    ben torah, history has proven to us that no lives can be saved by giving up land. it’s not a question of zionist vs.non-zionist

    #696319
    Ben Torah
    Participant

    yechezkel89: Israel gave the Sinai to Egypt, and despite the continuing “cold war” with them, no lives have been lost in wars with Egypt ever since.

    They never should have taken the land in ’48. That already cost thousands of Jewish lives ever since. Now that they already did, we see giving land can save lives.

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