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October 1, 2009 1:51 am at 1:51 am #590510bein_hasdorimParticipant
There are many types of Esrogim on the market. To name a few;
Yanover from (Italy), Chazon Ish, Kfar chabad, Taymani, etc..
What type is your minhag? & what do you look for in a Esrog.
big or small? green or yellow? smooth or bumpy?
our minhag is to buy Yanover.
October 1, 2009 2:06 am at 2:06 am #816537mi keamcha yisroelMemberwhat is yanover?
October 1, 2009 2:14 am at 2:14 am #816538mepalMemberDo they advertise a lot? The name rings a bell.
October 1, 2009 2:28 am at 2:28 am #816539goody613Memberi usually by gross but not for any specific reason, i just like the way they look
October 1, 2009 2:33 am at 2:33 am #816540bein_hasdorimParticipantIt is imported from pardeisim in Italy it’s without a pitum, ( i believe it falls)
less bumpy more smooth peel, it doesn’t get bright yellow (like a lemon)
usually green to a soft yellow. not so common on the street.
Although I think Lubavitch planted these yanover seeds in Israel in kfar chabad
& those look very different than the original yanover due to climate & humidity etc..
I think thats actually what kfar chabad esrogim are. (not sure)
October 1, 2009 2:41 am at 2:41 am #816541plonisalmonisMemberMy father buys only Temani
October 1, 2009 2:54 am at 2:54 am #816542sunflowerMemberplonimas,that says alot about you….
October 1, 2009 2:56 am at 2:56 am #816543plonisalmonisMemberGo ahead, I want to hear what you think sunflower. It’s probably all wrong.
Mods – could you let her reply go through even if you might consider it personal? I just want to know what she thinks.
October 1, 2009 2:59 am at 2:59 am #816544feivelParticipantglatt kosher
very bumpy
symmetrical
straight nose
no pitam
stem aligned with the “pitam” in a straight line
green if possible
not too big
just plain looks beautiful to me
October 1, 2009 3:10 am at 3:10 am #816545sunflowerMemberholy cow plonisalmonis! first of all why are assuming im a she? second, i never said ill go tell u your whole life story, and even if i think i may as well make up something really personal beacause u are so eager to hear someone say something about u! aw 4get it, i ill just keep it in!
October 1, 2009 6:30 am at 6:30 am #816547cherrybimParticipantbein_hasdorim – You can find Yanover with a pitim.
feivel – How do you get a glatt esrog and very bumpy at the same time; it’s a s’tira?
However, my beautiful esrog is grown in Eretz Yisroel and is: pale green; thick sturdy pitim; with ridges running from top to bottom and not bumpy like cellulite, totally clean- not even the tiniest dots anywhere of any color; with perfect gidul – pitim pointing straight up and aligned with stem which is pointing straight down; with stem area indented; not elongated or roundish; without a “gartel”; without bletflekin; with a top hechsher.
This type of esrog would sell for quite a lot more from the esrog dealers since you have to take into account rent and vastly higher profit expectations.
October 1, 2009 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm #816548jphoneMemberOne that is kosher according to halacha and passes the “hadar test” of my wife.
October 1, 2009 1:53 pm at 1:53 pm #816549pookieMemberwhichever i can get for 15 bucks on J
October 1, 2009 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #816550feivelParticipantits not a sterah
although glatt means smooth
in terms of shchita it also means that by being smooth there are no shailas that need to be asked
i meant glatt in the sense that there are no spots or other possible psulim that need to be clarified.
October 1, 2009 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #816551Feif UnParticipantI treat myself every year to a very nice set. Yes, it costs me money, but I feel right doing it. My grandfather A”H used to buy nice sets also (I went with him a few times when he bought it), and he felt it was important, so I follow the same way.
This year, I was told by someone that they had a few of the really top-notch quality esrogim (the ones that in Brooklyn, you get taken into the back room and charged hundreds of dollars for) for a good price. I can honestly say I got the nicest esrog I have ever bought. Not one bletel on the entire thing, perfectly straight, nice strong pittum… it really looks like one of the ones you find in a picture.
October 1, 2009 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #816552pookieMemberfeif un thats good u should enjoy it
October 1, 2009 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm #816553yoshiMemberI’ve always used yellow esrogim in the past. Can someone clarify the difference between having green as apposed to a yellow colored one? Just curious, Thanks 🙂
October 1, 2009 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #816554pookieMemberthe color?
October 1, 2009 4:19 pm at 4:19 pm #816555feivelParticipantsome shades of green can be pasul
yellow is always a Kosher color
some shades of yellow, though, indicate the esrog is overripe and may not last well through Succos
i just prefer green, no reason , it is more beautiful to me.
October 1, 2009 4:23 pm at 4:23 pm #816556haifagirlParticipantI was told by the esrog dealer I usually go to that the more bumps it has the more beautiful it is. I told her if she had bumps she wouldn’t be beautiful. But then again, she’s not an esrog.
I recently saw some that were about twice as large as what I’m used to. I’m not sure what kind they were.
October 1, 2009 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #816557feivelParticipantif they are bumpy they are less likely to be from grafts, which are assur.
October 1, 2009 4:40 pm at 4:40 pm #816558WolfishMusingsParticipantMy only requirement for an esrog (aside from the kashrus, obviously) is no pitom.
When my kids were little, I was always afraid that if I got one with a pitom, they’d break it off; so I “played it safe” and always bought without. Now that my kids are older, I simply continued doing so.
The Wolf
October 1, 2009 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm #816561cherrybimParticipantI have heard that the esrog growers send their better esrogim to America because that’s where the money is. And the wholesalers send their Brooklyn rejects to out-of town shuls and Judaica stores because the money is in New York and out-of town don’t have the discriminating mind set.
October 1, 2009 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm #816562pookieMemberyeh go brooklyn
October 1, 2009 5:15 pm at 5:15 pm #816563JosephParticipant“and out-of town don’t have the discriminating mind set.”
cherrybim: I cannot be mekabel such lashon horah regarding out-of-towners!
October 1, 2009 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #816564cherrybimParticipantSpeak up Joseph, I can’t hear you with your head in the sand.
October 1, 2009 6:32 pm at 6:32 pm #816565cantoresqMemberI ask around my schul to find out who paid the most for an etrog, and then go spend $5.00 more than that person paid.
October 1, 2009 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm #816566bein_hasdorimParticipantplonisalmonis: the taymani ones on the market are usually very large!
sunflower: do you have a love of papitos? (sunflower seeds)
cherrybim: yeah though most on the market & typical yanover dont have, I heard it falls off
while on the tree.
jphone: what’s her hadar test? dishwasher safe? or not having sunkist stamped on it? 🙂
Feif Un: happy to hear, nitz es gezunterheit!
Joseph: 😉
cherrybim: maybe outta towners arent so picky!
Joseph: sorry 4 the lashon horah.
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October 1, 2009 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #816567sunflowerMemberbh – wow do u like go thru each person and say s/t about them? anyway, it has nothing to do with but I LOVE SUNLOWER SEEDS! i didnt have them in years? is papyot in hebrew?
October 1, 2009 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #816568areivimzehlazehParticipantcherrybim’s detailed description fits our minhag except we consider a gartel more m’hudar
October 1, 2009 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #816569bygirl31Memberbein hasdorim- arent garinim sunflower seeds?
October 1, 2009 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #816570JosephParticipantareivim: No Shtreimel!?
October 1, 2009 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #816571bein_hasdorimParticipantsunflower: “I see something in your future!” Something special,
Something salty… or not. it comes in a bag.. or not.
Yes! Yes! it’s a ………………. sorry time is up!
This reading is free of charge, come back again tomorrow.
I am following up on my ORIGINAL post.
Now, I ask you, what is your preference when choosing an esrog?
October 1, 2009 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #816572bein_hasdorimParticipantbygirl31: in Hebrew, however, In yiddish we call em Papitos, or the yershalmim call it…lets see if anyone here knows?
btw, areivim: is a gartel a totally natural occurence or do they tie a string around it while its growing? 😉
October 1, 2009 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #816573sunflowerMembercome on bh! my tongue is watering!
October 1, 2009 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #816574bygirl31Memberoh… goood to know…thanks 🙂
October 1, 2009 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #816575areivimzehlazehParticipantb_h: my sheilah is why they’re using weekday gartlach (thin) for an esrog used on Succos
Joseph: dunno bout yours, but when my esrog wants to pop out everyone’s eyes it dons a pink necktie
October 1, 2009 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #816576bein_hasdorimParticipantsunflower: then we have to move this conversation over to the Chulent thread.
October 1, 2009 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #816577bein_hasdorimParticipantareivim: lol! what suit does it wear, vateh, foam, bounty, or bubble wrap?
October 1, 2009 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #816578areivimzehlazehParticipantmoh zeh vateh??
October 1, 2009 8:57 pm at 8:57 pm #816579bein_hasdorimParticipantthe stuff that looks like an old blond sheitel used to wrap the esrog,
not so popular these days.
October 1, 2009 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #816580squeakParticipantzeh nikra “flax”
October 1, 2009 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #816581bein_hasdorimParticipanttomato, tomaato.
October 1, 2009 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #816582cherrybimParticipantareivimzehlazeh- I think the gartel m’huder minhag was started by the dealers who couldn’t get anyone to buy them.
October 1, 2009 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm #816583bein_hasdorimParticipantcherrybim: that sounds about right.
October 2, 2009 3:25 am at 3:25 am #816584sunflowerMemberplonisalmonis, are still going curious? what happened to u ?
October 2, 2009 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #816585bein_hasdorimParticipantA friend of my believes that this year, he owns the nicest Esrog in the world!
I’m happy for him & hope you’re all happy with your choice of Esrog.
May we be Zoche to be m’kayem all the wonderful Mitzvos that come with this Yom Tov.
Wishing all gut Shabbos & a Chag Kosher V’sameach!
V’hiyisem “ACH” Someach!
October 2, 2009 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #816586plonisalmonisMemberOh, I’m still curious snflwr, but I’m also an obedient little girl and you said you won’t tell me, so I didn’t nag you.
But yes, if you want to be nice….
October 5, 2009 5:36 am at 5:36 am #816587sunflowerMemberare u sure?
October 5, 2009 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #816588Feif UnParticipantI don’t think a gartel is a hiddur, it’s a personal preference. My father happens to like the way it looks, so he buys one with a gartel if he can.
Buying without a pitum is not a problem at all, but my brother told me it’s brought down that having a pitum is a hiddur.
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