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February 13, 2009 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #589391feivelParticipant
asked by someone:
“The one Jewish ideal that I can’t get my head around is Moshiach – the belief in the coming of a messianic era. What good is achieved by awaiting some future time when there will be peace on earth? Shouldn’t we focus on the present, rather than dreaming about the future? Why is the belief in the coming of the messiah so central to Judaism?”
I’ll post an answer later
February 13, 2009 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm #642391kapustaParticipantto be or not to be…
February 13, 2009 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #642392qwertyuiopMemberfeivel: we’re waiting.$
February 13, 2009 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm #642393feivelParticipantSome of the deepest truths I learnt from my cricket coach. He was a sharp guy, with a keen eye for detail. He would observe my batting style and point out what I needed to work on. But I gained more than just cricket advice.
One consistent flaw in my batting was my follow through. The coach noticed that as soon as my bat hits the ball my arms lock and the bat stops. No good, he said. You need a full follow through. After hitting the ball you must keep swinging, making a complete semi-circle in the air.
This made no sense to me. What difference does it make what I do with the bat after I have hit the ball? Contact has been made between bat and ball, and whatever power I have put into the shot is there already. Will the ball travel further if I follow through? I can understand why backswing is important – the more I pull the bat back, the more momentum the swing has. But once the ball is hit, who cares what I do with the bat? Whether I keep swinging or stop, throw the bat away or eat it should make no difference to the ball that has already been hit. Why follow through?
My coach gave me the answer. The end point shapes the whole. The follow through doesn’t begin after you hit the ball; it begins as soon as you lift the bat. A swing that will end in a full follow through is a different swing entirely. What will be effects what is. The destination influences the whole journey.
This principle – that the end point shapes the whole – is true in cricket, baseball, tennis and golf. And it’s true in life too. What you believe about tomorrow shapes how you view today. Where your life is headed determines how your life is lived.
If the world is randomly hurtling through space, bound to eventually collide with an asteroid and return to vapour, then human history is a directionless romp through time, we are going nowhere, and my life certainly has no significance. Why work, why build, why love if it all ends in nothingness?
But if the world is heading toward a purpose for which it was created, if human history is a long journey with a clear and wonderful destination, then my today matters. My efforts today can bring the world a little closer to its purpose. My lifetime builds on the lifetimes that came before me, and gives a better world to those who will come after me, edging ever closer to the times of the Moshiach.
We are not just propelled by our past; we are beckoned by our future. Believing in a messianic future, a world of peace and divine closeness, inspires me to make today a step further in the journey. The Moshiach ideal makes the world better now. It may even improve my batting average
February 13, 2009 6:38 pm at 6:38 pm #642394WolfishMusingsParticipantI’m not sure I understand the question. One needs to look at the present as well as look to the future.
Just to give a silly example: I work, but I also put money in my 401(k) for the future. In other words, I’m properly concerned about meeting my day-to-day obligations (today) and still looking towards and preparing for the future.
The Wolf
February 13, 2009 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #642395qwertyuiopMemberfeivel: thanx for the answer.$
February 13, 2009 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #642396torahtzivaMemberbeuatiful answer thanxxxxx
February 13, 2009 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #642397feivelParticipant“I’m not sure I understand the question”
im not sure you understand the answer
February 13, 2009 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #642398feivelParticipantwolf to be more clear
nowhere did anyone suggest one should not be concerned about the present
if i may try to clarify the answer for you:
the present is NOT AN END, this is the answer in a nutshell
it is a means to an end
if there were no eternity your life would have no meaning.
if you had no tomorrow, chas v Shalom, putting money in your 401k today would have no meaning for you
February 16, 2009 3:13 am at 3:13 am #642403rabbiofberlinParticipantCRICKET ??????? wow !!!! I bet 99 out of one hundred posters here have no clue about cricket….
February 16, 2009 4:04 am at 4:04 am #642404teenMembernot sure if this is the same answer but:
if you are working towards moshiach then you will do as many mitzvot as possible because perhaps your mitzvot will be the ones that bring moshiach but if you dont beleive in moshiach why bother doing it?
not a very good answer but i just thought of it so i fiigured id share 🙂
February 16, 2009 4:18 am at 4:18 am #642405qwertyuiopMemberRoB: i do.$
February 16, 2009 4:28 am at 4:28 am #642406JosephParticipantI must be 1 in 100.
February 16, 2009 5:39 am at 5:39 am #642407havesomeseichelMemberI do… so I guess since you and I both know what it is, almost no one else knows without google or a dictionary…
February 16, 2009 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm #642408areivimzehlazehParticipantI bet noitallmr knows what cricket is (UK??). and no- I did not use google (I’m ancient enough to REMEMBER) ;);)
February 17, 2009 3:42 pm at 3:42 pm #642409noitallmrParticipantareivimzehlazeh- you bet I know what cricket is. Not knowing cricket here is like not knowing your alphabet.
But truth be told England is more into Football than Cricket for obvious reasons…
February 18, 2009 4:24 am at 4:24 am #642410goody613MemberThe present is preparing for the future of moshiach
February 18, 2009 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #642412myshadowMemberfeivel, WOW!!! Very nice!
Isn’t cricket like golf but with no holes?
February 18, 2009 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #642413RoshYeshivahMemberWow feivel You’re a great thinker
February 18, 2009 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #642414teenMemberdid u no that pool was taken from criquet?
February 18, 2009 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #642415myshadowMemberteen, really? Isn’t cricket this game with a stick like a golf club and these little flying things?
February 18, 2009 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #642416moish01Membercricket? isn’t that like baseball with a huge bat or something??
i might have made that up.
February 18, 2009 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm #642417myshadowMemberhold on I’m gona google it
February 18, 2009 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #642418myshadowMemberK straight from wikipedia:
Does sound kinda like baseball
“A cricket match is contested by two teams, usually of eleven players each[5] and is played on a grass field in the centre of which is a flat strip of ground 22 yards (20 m) long called a pitch. A wicket, usually made of wood, is placed at each end of the pitch and used as a target.
February 18, 2009 9:59 pm at 9:59 pm #642419teenMembermyshadow: oh yeh my bad pool is based on some other game where you hit these balls with like a golf club type of thing through wickets (i think theyr called that) and the kings didnt like sweating so they put it on a table and moved it indoors or something (thats y a pool table is green on top to represent the grass)
but i forgot the name of the game it is based on
February 18, 2009 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #642420teenMembernot sure how we got from moshiach to cricket haha
February 18, 2009 11:26 pm at 11:26 pm #642421beaconParticipantWe used to play cricket in camp many many years ago before most of you were born… jk it was like 10 years or something since I played.. I always hated it
April 19, 2009 4:45 am at 4:45 am #642422YW Moderator-42ModeratorSpeaking of cricket… Is the answer 42?
April 19, 2009 4:51 am at 4:51 am #642423moish01Member42, don’t tell me this is from the last time you were on here… that’s a full month, man!
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