At Sunday night’s major rally being organized by the Eida Chareidis, rabbonim are planning to call on the tzibur to recite a tefilla composed by Rabbi Chaim Felaje, hoping to stop the actions of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and the director-general of his office, Eyal Gabbai. The tefilla addresses those who dare to disturb bones following kvura and according to a Kol Chareidi report, the tzibur will recite the tefilla, directing it against the actions of all those involved in the decision to move the bones.
The rally is set to take place at Kikar Shabbat, in front of the Zupnik Building, the Eida headquarters in the area, and along Strauss and adjoining streets.
The temperature is definitely heating up on Sunday afternoon, accompanying the day’s sharav heat-wave, as the streets are periodically closed, refusing to move to permit vehicles to pass.
Eida Spokesman: No Tefilla Against PM or Others:
Eida Chareidis spokesman Rav Shmuel Peppenheim released a statement on Sunday evening that the Eida has absolutely no intension of calling on the tzibur to recite a tefilla against Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, his director-general Eyal Gabbai or others involved in the decision to authorize the exhumation of the bones at the building site of Ashkelon’s Barzilai Hospital.
Quoting a ‘Kol Chareidi’ report earlier (posted above), YWN-ISRAEL reported that the Eida planned to call on the tzibur to recite a tefilla composed by Rav Chaim Felaje, but Peppenheim denies the accuracy of these reports.
(Yechiel Spira – YWN Israel)
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Please post the tefilla here, so those of us in Chutz L’Aretz can recite it as well.
Why? They already did their Hishtadlus.
Do they think HKB”H doesn’t know what’s happening and can’t take care of it without their help?
What will they gain now by being Mazik others by blocking traffic and causing health issues in their own neighborhoods by burning things?
And then to have the Chutzpa to demand Din against someone else from HKB”H?
They should be Mispallel to remove the sins, not the sinners.
So do they favor Livni or Barak or Abbas??????
1) It is obvious from all of you that are against this gathering that the chillul atzumois and the kevoid hatorah does not bother you it’s only the eida And the erlicha yidden that are doing what you here should of done that seems to get you nerved,
2) the eida does not call upon any vandelisim or burning trash bins or any other such crazy acts and as a matter of fact most of these act are done by wild and not learning American boys that just look to make trouble
3) why was this tefila composed if it is not the right thing to daven for this ?
It is time we all seriosly think into the importants of these days that achdus and trying to judge others in favor even you may disagree with their opinion is what led klal Yisroel to kabolas hatora!
Uh, the bones weren’t determined to be Jewish so the laws aren’t as strict.
The Eida might not call upon any vandalism but does not take precautions to prevent it. They should realize that it will happen and they should do their utmost to prevent it.. These “American not learning boys” think they are doing some kind of mitzva as they have been taught to hate the “evil medina”.
To daven against a prime minister who is most definetely a Tinok Shenishba and trying his hardest to do what’s right is horrific.
Things should be done to help others get closer to Torah rather than keeping them in the status quo.
Posted by “kosherkid”:
Why? They already did their Hishtadlus.
Do they think HKB”H doesn’t know what’s happening and can’t take care of it without their help?
What will they gain now by being Mazik others by blocking traffic and causing health issues in their own neighborhoods by burning things?
And then to have the Chutzpa to demand Din against someone else from HKB”H?
They should be Mispallel to remove the sins, not the sinners.
Posted by “EN23”:
IT is so sick to think that “jews” are going to pray against a fellow jew, and to those who do, g-d will see the truth. why dont you try praying for him. It is time for the Eida to come down from there hight horse, they will fall
Posted by “RamatShilo”:
what idiots….
these people just cause trouble and cause people to hate religous ppl… they should all be charged with treason and deported
Posted by “gabs911”:
it seems that moshiach isnt coming this year either.
Im very depressed.
Posted by “doniels”:
Is this to counterbalance the Tefila we are all going to say on Wednesday morning against those who steal our time by blocking traffic?
This “Tefila” is known as the 8th commandment – “Thou Shalt Not Steal”
Seriously, what justification is there to steal people’s time in order to do anything – even the biggest Mitzva?
Posted by “mamashtakah”:
Can’t help thinking that if they were all gainfully employed they would not have time for protesting.
Posted by “EN23”:
Put them in jail
Posted by “stzc18”:
Terrible!!!!!!! While I agree about not moving the bones, I am totally against praying against another Jew. Why don’t we just daven that things go the right way, instead of directing our Tefilos against specific people? Who says we have the right to do that?? They are still Yidden. Hashem is the JUDGE, not us.
Posted by “koma”:
do we not have a principle that one who calls and midas hadin is subected to it himself first? The Eida has its own issues. My Ahavas yisroel is tested every time there is unrest in the streets, and when I happen to be inconvenienced, my ahavas yisroel loses. And that community and it leaders are to blame. I am more like them than many of my not so secular neighbors and I am the cool nerved one.
Posted by: “MichelleNY”
I’m with kosherkid 100%.
Posted by “frumimaof3”
I am also with kosher kid 10000000 %
Posted by “MazelKGH”:
Disgusting!
Posted by “Moose613”:
Will somebody more learned than I am PLEASE compose a tefilah against the Eida?
They are single handedly making torah observant Jews look like terrorists.
Posted by “justasimplejew”:
i think the eida should organize a tefilla for all the mushchis who burn garbage bins (and last night a car if the firefighters hadnt put it out it would have blown up right next to an apartment bulding) that they should jump into the fire with the stuff that they burn
My understanding is that when bones are moved it causes pain to the neshomo, which gets upset and, to put it mildly, does not create merits for the Jewish population in Eretz Yisroel. The Gedolim very possibly feel that protesting has the effect of reducing any accusatory forces that might be unleashed (we’ve got enough problems without adding more accusatory forces) and is therefore worthwhile for everyone’s sake, even if leads to inconvenience and even if people whose intentions are not so pure protest in ways that are undesirable to the Gedolim and everyone else.
May I offer two suggestions for readers:
1) Spend a few minutes every day learning Yoreh Deah Simon 363 concerning the prohibition against moving graves, and similar sources in sefarim like Gesher HaChaim. The merit of learning these halachos can only help.
2) PLEASE work on disagreeing without insulting or demonizing. IMHO this also can only find favor in Heaven.
#10 If blocking traffic is stealing time and thus such a terrible averia, how come nothing is bing done about all the school busses that block traffic every single morning in Boro Park.
At times you can’t get anywhere in or through Boro Park because those busses are blocking every street and sometimes they spend a 1/2 on one single block which makes people late for work.
I meant every single weekday morning.
#2 – “Do they think HKB”H doesn’t know what’s happening and can’t take care of it without their help?”
So according to you, why bother trying to save somebody’s life? Surely Hashem knows what is going on, and has the power to stop it?!
I cannot believe what has been written about the Eida on the “Yeshiva World” website.
“idiots”
“they will fall”
“they should all be charged with treason and deported”
“Put them in jail”
“Will somebody more learned than I am PLEASE compose a tefilah against the Eida?”
“they should jump into the fire with the stuff that they burn”
This just makes me sick.
First of all, the Eida is no “terrorist” organization. They do not promote or condone any violence at all. Check your facts before you spew your disgusting motzai shaim ra.
And secondly, I find it heavily ironic that those who pit themselves against the Eida, due to their supposed extreme actions, could use such strong terms. If the you cannot stand the Eida’s supposed lack of tolerance, then how do you excuse your intolerant language? Why can’t you disagree without petty name-calling and untrue accusations?
I don’t know why most of you don’t read the entire article; it says clearly that Eida has not called on any body to protest that is first of all.
Now lets get something strait, Most of us shomrey Torah and Mitzvos that daven 3 times a day know or should know that we are already praying 3 times a day against these roshoim in the medina that run it against Torah. In Laminim ve Lamalshanim. So I don’t know what is all the fuss about.
I suggest that we pray very hard for Hashem to have rachmanut on all of us bring the Moshiach NOW. And to those here that gave up hope for this year DO NOT.
Have a Good Yom Tov all the Yiden.
And Chag Sameach
to kosherkid:
How can you consider a tefilla of the beknown Reb Chaim Falagi a chutzpa, if gedolaei haposkim hold that in this case it is appropriate?
#2 – “Do they think HKB”H doesn’t know what’s happening and can’t take care of it without their help?”
So according to you, why bother trying to save somebody’s life? Surely Hashem knows what is going on, and has the power to stop it?! Obviously when Hashem allows something like this to happen, He wants to see if we react or sit on the sidelines.
I cannot believe what has been written about the Eida on the “Yeshiva World” website.
“idiots”
“they will fall”
“they should all be charged with treason and deported”
“Put them in jail”
“Will somebody more learned than I am PLEASE compose a tefilah against the Eida?”
“they should jump into the fire with the stuff that they burn”
This just makes me sick.
First of all, the Eida is no “terrorist” organization. They do not promote or condone any violence at all. Check your facts before you spew your motzai shaim ra.
And secondly, I find it heavily ironic that those who pit themselves against the Eida, due to their supposed extreme actions, could use such strong terms. If the you cannot stand the Eida’s supposed lack of tolerance, then how do you excuse your intolerant language? Why can’t you disagree without petty name-calling and untrue accusations?
Where was the Eida when the the Netanyahu family buried their korban, Yonatan, z’l who rescued scores of yidden at the cost of his own life July 4, 1976?
#23,26 (mw13) If you would have read the first line in my post (#6), you would have seen that I wrote that they already did their Hishtadlus… so don’t say that I implied not to bother trying to save somebody’s life.
So what do you object to? You hold that being Mazik others is Mutar in this case? You disagree with the Gemoro where the Maskana is to Daven against the sins, but not the sinners? (Brochos 10:)
#24 You use the Brocho written by Shmuel Hakoton to daven 3x a day against other Jews, who quite likely are Tinokos Shenishbu?
#25 If the Tefila (which I haven’t seen the Nusach) is that they should do Tshuva, great. If it’s to bring Midas Hadin, which once here doesn’t distinguish between good and bad…. you must be very confident in your merits to not be scared of this.
The actions of these hooligans is a massive Chilul HaShem.
There are two options, either return immediately to learning or go out and get a job and earn a livelihood.
If they are American and not learning, they should go home.