At Sunday night’s kinos in Bnei Brak’s Ramat Elchanan neighborhood, rabbonim are expected to give instruction to heads of mosdos and others, just how they are expected to ensure the homes of their talmidim are free of the threats posed by the internet, the daily HaMevaser reports on the front page of Sunday’s edition. It appears the kinos is intended to give guidelines of enforcement of the ban.
The organizers promise that Maranan V’Rabanan Gedolei Yisrael Shlita will be attending, well aware of the dangers posed by the internet in frum homes. While the rabbonim have spoken out strongly against the “so-called chareidi website”, it appears the focus of the Sunday night event will be on removing internet from homes, to distance the “tuma and threat” from the homes of the frum community.
The city auditorium will open at 5:00pm with the Rabbonim Shlita using the northern gate and heads of mosdos the central gate, hoping this will assist in maintaining order.
UPDATED INFO: YWN-Israel has learned that the Rabbonim Shlita attending the Sunday evening kInos against internet will begin promptly at 5:30pm, and it will be a relatively short event.
The keynote speakers will reportedly by Maran HaGaon HaRav Aryeh Leib Shteinman Shlita and HaGaon HaRav Shmuel Halevi Wosner Shlita.
The organizers indicate that at the conclusion, the newly-developed ‘takanos’ (regulations) will be distributed, which takes into account those requiring internet connectivity to earn a livelihood.
It appears such people are compelled to ask a halachic question of one’s rav “as one does for other halachic matters” and those requiring connectively must have appropriate internet filtering on their system, blocking out all sites not absolutely essential to making a living, including “so-called chareidi sites”.
(Yechiel Spira – YWN Israel)
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I am wondering, though, where the world is going when it is fine for our children to go to Malcha Mall on Thursday night and Motzei Shabbos and eat Rabbanut Mehadrin – but having internet at home or travelling on a non-Mehadrin bus is completely out of the question.
The priorities are completely messed up, and this is a sick, sick world.
If one would ask the Rabbonim what type of shailos are brought to them as a result of the internet they would cease to be ask why they are so forceful against it.
The internet is the biggest destroyer of kids and families today that is an undisputable fact.
Why people who are otherwise responsible think that it is mutar to have unfiltered internet access in thier homes is mind boggling as well as dangerous.
Unfiltered Internet Access is assur period.
Many years ago I had heard that the Rabbunim did not want to ban smoking because they did not want to ‘make sinners’ out of so many people.
How is banning the internet any different especially when unlike with smoking, there is much good that can be done with it that sometimes cannot eb dione any other way?
For example many people who could never in their lives, afford to buy or rent store space to start a business, have been able to make money online in various ways such as selling through Ebay.
Others who may be wheelchair bound or invalids or living in areas where very few Yidden live, can still learn Torah online, even learning with a class or Chavrusa.
Still others like me have had a nightmare of a time paying bills through the mail for many reasons (like never being able to get to the Post office to buy stamps since at one time, I worked all week, day and night including Sundays).
Now I can pay online fast and relatively secure
even at 2 AM without any concerns over who is open or whether the letter with my payment will go through or how many days it will take.
Are we all all just to supposed to give all that up?
OK so the internet is also full of Tznus, so are the streets we have to go through to get to work
(unless all our work is done through the internet 🙂 so are we going to ban going to work as well, to be consistent?
PLEASE! The word is pronounced (and spelled) Kinus, not Kinos! Kinos is plural of kinah which is translated as a lamentation, what we say on tisha b’av. Kinus is a form of l’kanes as in to gather. It means a gathering. Please change your spelling of this word!
No one is saying that filtered access (with strong filters that really work) as well as with technology kike WebChaver) is ossur.
It is unfiltered access to the internet that is assur gamur.
Saying filters do not allow access to places like ebay is not an ansewer in Hilchos Yichud it says straight out that if someones work forces him to be in a situation of Yichud you are obligated to find another job for sure for merely a convenience!
Someone should turn on their spell checker.
Did Rabbi Porush take down his site yet? It is hypocritical of him to continuously broadcast the latest bans on the internet via his paper if his website is still up.
Maybe they are saying kinos at the kinus?
when the toothbrush became common, there was a move by the more fanatic elements of the jewish world to outlaw it, when the automobile came out, there was a move to go against it by the more fanatic elements saying “who knows where you will go with this thing?”, but as the world changes, we have to change with it, otherwise we will be just like just like the arabs, completely unable to adapt to the modern world until the gap is so wide that were stuck in another time forever, without the benefits of a modern economy….
We’re taught to teach our children how to swim, not try to keep them away from water. There has been virtually no attempt to try to teach children (and adults) how to stay pure. Why is nobody interested in trying to learn to deal with the internet which, by the way, is here to stay? Unlike television it is becoming increasingly important for work, and children will be expected to deal with a 21st century world with 18th century tools. Why are we scared of this incredible avoda? Is it too difficult? Are we too lazy?
Untznius people come into kosher stores and businesses.
You can’t filter life unless no one is allowed to leave their homes, even to work.
I have never heard of frum people at any time in history ever arguing against toothbrushes or against cars.
#4 – dmg –
With respect, and on reflection, I think that the word ‘kinos’ (lamentations) was totally apposite in its use here.
Chareidim, for all the spiritual good they do in this wicked world, sometimes cannot see further than the ends of their noses when it comes to technology and innovation.
We should look for and encourage positive uses of the internet – not to condemn its use out of hand. Comment #8, from hanavon, has a lot to commend it.
michaelbardaniel
there has always been an element of extremists who refused to deal with modern ideas and advancements.
unfortunately, this once small group has become the majority in the world of torah observant jews.
in the age of the enlightenment, they refused to deal with certain concepts that we have all accepted by this time, and sadly, they moved to destroy any secular education in the process. their descendants are now facing the inevitable result of such ideologies, which is that 25-30% of the ultra-charedi youth are going off the derech, instead of just becoming more modern, and the so many of the ones who do not go off, eat food payed for with food stamps, live in apartments paid for with section 8, and visit their many, many like minded friends who are in prison because they did not have any regard for law. strangely, the number of orthodox jews in prison is many times more than the number of non religious jews in prison when adjusted for population. the 150 year long experiment of willful isolation is proving itself to be a colossal failure in all of its facets.
YWN –
Kinos = lamentations
Keness = gathering
when will you correct this mistake once and for all?
Every day there are more and more things that you can’t do without internet access. I am a computer programmer and need to have access from home for work reasons. Lots and lots of friends and neighbors come over or ask me to find information for them that they can’t get any other way. Face it, internet is a need.