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2016 Results Put New Focus On Electoral College


ecThe fact that Hillary Clinton most likely won the U.S. popular vote but won’t be president has some people wondering, “Wait, why do we do it this way?”

Thank — or blame — the Founding Fathers for creating the possibility of a so-called “divergent election” when they set up the Electoral College.

A look at how and why the U.S. selects its presidents this way:

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ORIGINS

The Electoral College was devised at the Constitutional Convention in 1787. It was a compromise meant to strike a balance between those who wanted popular elections for president and those who wanted no public input. Alexander Hamilton wrote, “If the manner of it be not perfect, it is at least excellent.”

At the time, the country had just 13 states, and the founders were worried about one state exercising outsized influence, according to a white paper from the U.S. Election Assistance Commission. Small states were worried that states with large populations would have extra sway. Southern states with slaves who couldn’t vote worried that Northern states would have a louder voice. There were concerns that people in one state wouldn’t know much about candidates from other states. The logistics of a national election were daunting. The thinking was that if candidates had to win multiple states rather than just the popular vote, they would have to attract broader support.

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HOW IT WORKS

The electoral system has been tweaked over the years, but the gist endures. The president is selected by a “college” of 538 electors from the states. Each state gets as many electoral votes as it has members of Congress, and the District of Columbia gets three. To be elected president, the winner must get at least half the total plus one — or 270 electoral votes. Most states give all their electoral votes to whichever candidate wins the state’s popular vote. So while Clinton is leading Trump in votes nationwide 47.7 percent to 47.5 percent, Trump’s total in the Electoral College stands at 290, with races in Michigan and New Hampshire yet to be called. In 2000, Democrat Al Gore narrowly won the popular vote but lost to Republican George W. Bush in the Electoral College 271-266. Overall, there have been four such cases of divergent elections.

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THE PROS

A lot has changed since the Electoral College system was established, making many of the original reasons for its existence outdated: The U.S. now manages to run national elections quite well. Voters nationwide have no shortage of information about candidates. Slavery no longer exists. But there are still concerns that small states and rural areas would be ignored in favor of those with bigger populations if the race hinged strictly on the popular vote.

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THE CONS

In 1967, a commission of the American Bar Association recommended that the Electoral College system be scrapped, finding it to be “archaic, undemocratic, complex, ambiguous and dangerous.” Fifty years later, critics are still complaining, arguing that the system results in huge swaths of the country being ignored while candidates focus on a dozen or so battleground states.

“It’s a terrible system,” says George C. Edwards III, a Texas A&M professor who’s written a book on the subject. Edwards tracks every campaign stop by the major candidates, and he says big states that are sure to vote for one candidate or another — say, California for the Democrats or Texas for the Republicans — now get completely ignored, and small states largely get overlooked, too.

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IS CHANGE AFOOT?

Don’t count on it. Republicans have benefited the most from the system in recent years, and they’re in control of Congress. However, there is an effort underway to get around the winner-take-all aspects of the system without abolishing the Electoral College.

A group called National Popular Vote is pushing an interstate compact under which states would pledge to deliver all their electoral votes to the nationwide winner of the popular vote. Over the past decade, 11 states have approved such a bill.

John Koza, chairman of the group, is quick to point out that both Trump and Clinton are on record in recent years saying the system is flawed. He’s hopeful Trump’s election won’t make Republicans less amenable to changing it.

“We’re talking about a policy change that’s largely dictated by the need to create a 50-state campaign for president instead of a 12-state campaign for president,” says Koza.

(AP)



6 Responses

  1. You did not count in the third or even a fourth party, which we had this year.

    if you take the smaller runners’ votes and add it to the most popular vote state by state, Trump would be the winner of the popular vote as well.

    The problem with the popular vote is VOTER Fraud! you don’t need Photo ID and dead people can vote… If & when they fix that, then I will be all for the popular vote. That’s only if there is a 2 person race. BUT if you allow more than 2 person race that will create problems!!

    You dont have a 3 way world series game/race, do ya?

  2. The Electoral College MAP IS WRONG 8 STATES were assigned to Hillary INCORRECTLY
    Trump won 290 vs. Clinton 228

    WISOCONSIN, IOWA, PENNSYLVANIA, OHIO, FLORIDA = red states
    MICHIGAN, NEW HAMPSHIRE = tied, so neither blue nor red
    MAINE = divided

    There’s no way Hillary could have won. She ONLY won the popular votes because of fraud voting, repeated dead voters, illegal immigrants voting and rigged machines that voted for Clinton when selecting Trump. Time to stop MSMP baloney and lies.

  3. I don’t understand why anyone ever talks about the popular vote at all. It really doesn’t mean anything to win the popular vote. First of all, the candidates go into the election knowing the rules, so they focus their attention on the states they need to win. So for example, Trump spent the last 2 weeks of the campaign running back and forth from battleground state to battleground state doing 3,4,or sometimes 5 rallies a day. That worked for him as he picked up voters in those states and won them. Had the rules been different, his strategy would have been different, and the popular vote outcome could have been different. If the world series is decided by total runs scored as opposed to who wins the most games, teams would strategize differently and you can’t take the outcome of a world series played under these rules as proof to what would happen if the rules were set up differently. Secondly, there are many voters who live in a state where their vote doesn’t matter. New York will always vote Democrat, so will California, Texas will always go to the Republican. In these states, there are Republicans and Democrats, who just don’t show up to vote,whether they vote along their state lines or not. To look at a popular vote under these conditions and interpret it to mean that more people like the candidate that didn’t win doesn’t really make sense.

  4. “California for the Democrats or Texas for the Republicans” California goes to the Democrats (not the Democratic party, by the way), because it is, by-and-large, made up of a population of Democrats. That will not change. For the Republicans, the same can be said of the state of Texas. Any proposal which would ask (or force) a state’s electoral college to, in essence, give up their individual and collective votes because of the collective votes of an entire country which will, for all intents and purposes silence that state’s voice, is contrary not only to a compromise decision of the founding fathers, but to the very foundations upon which this Republic was built.

  5. More than 43% of eligible voters did not vote, over 90 million people. Some battle ground states the difference was a few thousand votes. You’re dreaming if you think all of those 90 million would’ve voted for just one candidate.

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