14 Responses

1. We are our own worst enemies. Nebach.

2. These loizers make me sick – both offensive and ridiculous at the same time.
   I wonder, given that they have so little ahavas Yisroel, whether they are really Yidden at all.

3. Then great the “chareidim” like terrorists. If they attack, shoot them

4. yes ,we must destoy amalak.

5. But someone has taught these guys to be this way, to think that they can prevent another Jew from learning Torah- I have seen these guys,their eyes are very scary. Derech Eretz Kadma Latorah.

6. Police maintained a presence in the shul to protest the soldiers, permitting them to continue learning.

   I’m assuming you meant protect…

   SiDi™

7. “frum soldiers” if they are soldiers how they are frum?

8. Sick people.

9. Why didn’t the police bring in the horses and water cannon?

10. It’s really heartwarming to constantly read constructive comments on this very chareidi website (not just on this article) how whatever the chareidim do — is wrong, misguided, exaggerated, too extreme, etc. Anything but right. Criticism of Torah personalities is of course, much more muted, but is nonetheless present sometimes. The secular media in Israel for decades have been engaged in “chareidi bashing.” Irrational, often Pavlovian knee-jerk attitude that “whatever the chareidim do or want — is wrong”. It seems that YWN sometimes succumbs to this too, mostly by way of the Comments, occasionally in the actual articles. True, the language in the articles is generally more respectful when relating something that a gadol, rosh yeshiva, or chassidishe rebbe said or did. But, the “tzibbur ha’chareidi”, “the masses,” “the multitude,” “the black hordes,” are nearly always considered to be on the wrong side of the fence.
    There was a horribly anti-Semitic rag that appeared weekly 75 years ago, whose masthead trumpeted: “The Jews Are Our Misfortune.” Let’s please not have a situation where some of us sound like: “The Chareidim Are Our Misfortune….”
    Many highly critical comments are posted by people who don’t even live in E.Y., or who perhaps “lived here for 2-3 years back in the 1980s.” Aside from street violence to which I remain strongly opposed, all you folks across the pond ought to realize that it’s not Flatbush, Long Island, Miami, or L.A. It’s a different culture here with a different mentality. I’m living here close to 4 decades, and do not agree with everything that goes on. But, I understand that I am not in the U.S., and things work differently over here.
    Perhaps trying to implement some of that “achdus,” “Ahavat Yisrael,” “dan le’kaf zechus” that some accuse the chareidim of lacking could go a long way toward improving the situation.

11. It’s time charadi rabbis stood up for zionism, the un vote is coming to to condemn “settlements” that’s correct the entire world on one side and israel on the other. And all we can do is sinnat Chinam. We need moshiach now. Stop fighting and start loving.

12. That’s a real Hiloul Hashem, and bitoul holy zman of the soldiers shtayguen…

13. #11 Joe: Maybe it’s time for you to arrange a meeting with “the charadi rabbis” — otherwise known as the gedolei hador, and try to persuade them to accept your views. Not likely to succeed, but you could try. That is the only way to get the mainstream charaidim to accept anything. What the gedolei hador endorse — they will follow. What they disallow — the chareidim will also reject. All the endless back and forth on zionism and the IDF and similar subjects, where people are not even listening to each other is not accomplishing anything. Not just in this article, but for various related forums in the coffee room as well. You need to convince the rabbonim, not the laymen.

14. It just hurts them to see other people being normal even after going to the army.