A choson and kalah heading home from their wedding in the New York area were robbed, leading to a severe trauma as well as a difficult and urgent halachic situation.
As the newlyweds headed home from the hall, a group of violent thugs stopped them, Chareidim reports, demanding their money and valuables. The Choson, who feared for the safety of his wife gave them the cash, thousands of dollars, as well as their gifts. When the robbers were satisfied that they had everything, they fled.
When the traumatized couple arrived home, they were horrified when realizing among the gifts given to the robbers was their kesuba. The choson immediately began making phone calls and rabbonim ruled a new kesuba must be written without delay.
Witnesses were found and awakened and the new ‘kesuba d’irchisei’, (כתובה דאירכסא) designed for such emergency situations, was written immediately.
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Baruch Hashem that the Choson and Kalah weren’t hurt.
I’m not asking for the names of the Choson and Kalah,
but which city or which area of the city did this robbery take place in?
Zol zein a kapporah, and they should build a Bayis Ne’eman B’Yisroel.
Thousands of dollars in cash? I dont remember receiving cash from any guests at my wedding.
Clearly, an inside job.
Why are we hiring workers inside the wedding halls, without checking them out?
Oh my, how terrible! What a way to start a marriage. May they only have much mazal and bracha in the future!
L’hagdil Torah u’lha’adirah…
It is very likely that a kesuba d’irchasa was not necessary for this case — it isn’t quite what it was designed for. If they were able to awaken the same eidim and indeed the two eidim reconvened to sign a kesuba, they could rewrite an identical one to the one that they had written earlier that night.
If they remember the event, signing it would present no problem.
A kesuva d’irchisa is necessary when a kesuba is misplaced and a chosson wants to reaccept the liablilities of the kesuba and acknowledge that he married his wife in front of NEW eidim who had no knowledge of the event.
Shazam,
A kaporah is on your cheshbon it’s crass on someone else’s.
I wouldn’t sign off my name on this story. It’s “Made in Israel”!!!!!
A day earlier when this appeared on Chadrei Chareidim there was in the US, on all headlines a similiar story about a couple coming home from their wedding, and their house was LITERALLY cleaned out!!!!!!!
Can you believe that this story here was not reported in any major news source except CHADREI CHAREIDIM in Israel???????????
You know what the Nafke Mine lehalacha is if it’s true or not, wether she has a GOOD Kesube or needs Kesibe Dirchese!!!!!………….or if the Choson was Mekades the Kala al tenai that it’s……
#4- dan lechaf zechus. There are thugs that know what a wedding looks like. Goyim do have brains to figure out if they see many people entering a hall in fancy clothes and exiting hours later…. and they might catch a glimpse of a bride in white gown….
Hashem Yerachem!! Hopefully this should be the only difficult part of shana rishona and they should catch these thugs and recoup everything!
I was advised before my wedding years ago to have someone else hold on to the gifts after the wedding and not go home with them because you never know who’s watching or at least see if the hall is willing to let you lock up things in a room and come back for it the next day.
my sister at her wedding the kesuva had a extra name for her by mistake they chopped only after the chupa so they got 2 people as eadem and redid it. then the 2nd day of sheva brachos her car was stolen and they took het pocket book with her kesuva they told the rav and he said it was probably better to get a new one then change name on old one.
I remeber when this happened to someone in my shiur.
That was more than 15 years ago.
B’H They were not hurt it’s very scary to start off a marriage this way I think that after a wedding the parents of either the chossen or kallah should take home all the gifts also maybe the kallah shoulld consider not wearing her wedding dress home or where ever they go havesomeseichel I agree people know what a wedding looks like espc. a
In 1991, shortly before my wedding, a similar incident happened to my close friend’s first cousin. It seems that in that case the kallah had left the wedding hall still dressed in her wedding gown. The thieves, recognizing that a “just married” couple would probably have money & jewelry on them, robbed them of everything — including the kesuba.
I don’t know what they ended up doing about the kesuba (I had heard that it had been found), but we were consequently advised to have my kallah change to street clothes before leaving our own wedding, in order to avoid a similar situation.
B’H they were not hurt thats the main thing i think the parents of the chossen or the kallah should take home all the gifts and not give it to the newlyweds to carry it along wherever they go that night. havesomeseichel you are 100% correct people know what a wedding gown looks like and the know that the just got gifts i think we should start telling our kallahs to not go out after the wedding wearing their gowns may the chossen and kallah build a BN’B.
lets all calm down a bit- almost no one gives cash as wedding presents, just checks.
Traumatic for the moment. In retrospect, let’s home that ‘hazor’im’ b’dimah b’rinah yiktzoru!
#2 & #7: (RE: kapora)
please keep in mind that just a few short hours before the chosson & kalla had a major kaporas avoinos at the chuppa, so unless some heavy aveiros were committed during the chassuna, it’s hard to think what they needed another kapora for. (during my sheva brochos week, i was told by a talmid chocham that there are opinions that the ENTIRE week is one long kapora)
must_hock you are correct most people dont give cash but what about the other kind of gifts.
deep thinker – this is NOT obviously an inside job!!
this happened a number of times years ago & thats why today most couples DO NOT take the gifts with them – someone else from the family does
& some people are even careful to change out of their wedding gown so as not to attract the attention as bride & groom!
chosson Kallah should be escorted after their wedding, until they get home ,someone should make sure they’re not looked out ect. which happened in the past chosson kallah are special the first days especially the night after their wedding
It’s not the first time it happened, also advisable they shouldn’t bring home all the jewelry chosson Kallah should be escorted after their wedding, until they get home ,someone should make sure they’re not looked out which happened in the past.
chosson kallah are special the first days especially the night after their wedding
It’s not the first time it happened, also advisable they shouldn’t bring home all the jewelry.
Let us just hope it will be their worst thing in their entire life and they should have lots of luck in their marriage.
12 & 13– you make no sense and add nothing to the story. This incident should teach all celebrants to leave the hall in a modest anonymous way so suspects cannot easily tell who is guest and who is celebrating. It may well have been an ‘inside’job involving workers in the hall or chauffeur drivers.
Can someone please explain something to this “Brit”.
Don’t the Chosson and Kallah get driven home or wherever, after the Chasunah, by someone else?
these guys are easy to bust.
any guy cashing too many $36,$72 checks is probabaly your guy.
if youre STILL not sure, follow him home.
if he has more than 6 vases, well you got your man.
My shvigger’s sister-in-law gave us a beastly birchas ha’bayis painting in a hideous green plastic frame – the brochos were surrounded by animals with blazing eyes wearing aprons (the “female” animals) and talis/tefillin (the “male” animals). Noch besser, she had the “artist” inscribe our names into the swirls of smoke rising from the ovens (the “female” animals were, of course, baking challah), so we could not even “re-gift” this monstrosity.
I might have asked someone to “steal” it the wedding night, but she insisted on helping us carry it to the car and wrapping it in blankets so it would arrive home safe and sound.
Sof ma’asef, we kept in a closet and hung it in the kitchen when she visited. The culmination of this excruiating experience was when she visited for yom tov last year and insisted on baking a cake. Unfamiliar with my eishes chayil’s electric mixer, she hit the “high” switch and prompty sprayed the kitchen with chocolate batter. In the line of fire, so to speak, was the painting; I think the cake batter improved the darn thing. A shrei like that I have not heard for a long time – she very quickly grabbed a dishtowel and started wiping off the batter . . . and shmeared the entire painting in the process. If I have not heard a shrei like that, I also have not heard Hungarian curses like that – I think that by the time she was done, the artist who failed to “seal” the paint was set to find prunes growing from her ears and needles from her eyelids.
And now we hang a calendar in our kitchen, and we have new space in our closet.
All’s well that ends well.
telegrok,
I hope your shvigger’s sister-in-law does not know your screen name, and I hope that you are not playing down the Tzaar of this poor couple.