When asked in the Oval Office whether he supports Israel annexing the West Bank, U.S. President Trump declined to give a direct answer.

“I’m not going to talk about that. It certainly is a small, it’s a small country in terms of land,” he responded.

Holding up his pen, he continued: “See this pen? This wonderful pen on my desk is the Middle East, and the top of the pen — that’s Israel.”

“That’s not good, right? You know, it’s a pretty big difference. I use that as an analogy — it’s pretty accurate, actually.”

He then appeared to refer to Israel’s achievements, saying, “It’s a pretty small piece of land. It’s amazing what they’ve been able to do when you think about it, [There’s] a lot of good, smart brain power, but it is a very small piece of land, no question about it.”