17 Responses

1. The only important order of business is to extricate every single hostage, and everything else even combined, is not even fractionally as important, so every other squabble needs to take back burner until such time that every hostage is out.

2. Seems r Deri confirmed that only lomdei Torah should be excluded from service. This sounds like a healthy compromise to me. Hopefully this will increase both number of hayalim and lomdei Torah

3. I simply don’t understand these people. They will never be in any government other than this one. The opposition will rule and they will have no say whatsoever. I don’t get it. The constant threat of we’re leaving the government is so childish, as I see it. I don’t understand Israeli politics at all.

4. well the gedolim do

5. This is such a sham. The Torah is the patrimony of all Israel, not just an elite priestly class. Stop schnorring and share the burden.

6. כהנא צדק לשחרר את דרעי

7. Based on today’s numbers it doesn’t look like the left would ever put a majority together either, so it will just be a status quo government and maybe further elections. So they know they stay in power pretty much even if they go to elections

8. Deri is a criminal. His opposition to the draft law is no less than a rotzeyach! He is an apikoras and no different than a reform rabbi reinterpreting the holy Torah.

9. 147
   Obviously the anti religious people in the government does not feel this way and they have nothing better to do with such a terrible situation than to make religious people go to the army.
   It’s all not true, it’s a bluff.They don’t really need them if it was really so important.They could bring back all those israeli’s in america living their life

   Myself and others are wondering why these people are still in the government supporting these terrible things

10. @A Good Jew.
    You need to leave your Yeshiva and learn how the world works. You cannot force anyone, even your citizens, to come back once they leave your country. But you could force citizens in your country to join the army. If citizens don’t want to participate, they also have the option of leaving. So everyone should be leaving if they do not want to participate.

11. Ari knobler did you ever hear of shevet Levi are you familiar with the rambam at the end of Shmitah veyovel he doesnot call them shnorrers not at all
    he would call you pathetic and clueless

12. i’m not sure how these Shtyging Yeshiva Bochurim get back and forth from their apartments to the beis medrash. i mean i wouldn’t want them to become non religious from all those outside forces on the street.

    Heaven forbid they should go to the army for a year or two in a Not-Religious-Enough hesder program and become not religious from those terrible influences. all while israel is facing a seven front war against genocidal enemies

    Keep on making a chillul Hashem. keep your “shtyging” intact as you cause others to hate religious people. smart.

13. Leviim were exempt only for war that’s not a milchemet mitzvah. Even assuming defending israel against terrorits is not considered a milchemet mitzvah the shulchan aruch states clearly ALL jews must defend

    Here is the full text of Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chaim 329:6, which discusses the obligation to defend against attacks on Jewish communities:

    שולחן ערוך אורח חיים סימן שכ”ט סעיף ו’:
    “עיר הסמוכה לספר, אפילו לא באו אלא על עסקי תבן וקש, מחללין עליהם את השבת. ובמה דברים אמורים – כשבאים עליהם מחוץ לתחום; אבל אם באו בתוך התחום, יוצאים עליהם בכלי זיינם ומחללין עליהם את השבת, ואפילו לא באו אלא על עסקי תבן וקש. ובכל מקום, אם באו על עסקי נפשות, או שערים מישראל צרו עליהם, יוצאים עליהם בכלי זיינם ומחללים עליהם את השבת.”

14. How do ppl who have no shaychus to olam hayeshivot the Ohr Hatorah shteiging in Aliyah of a Ben Torah speak to leaving it for the tumah laden idf
    you can’t speak to something if you are wholly unfamiliar.

15. I am glad he is figthing the zionist shmad

16. Look at all theses Talmidie chachomim and lamdonim (in previous comments) who don’t see the shark right in front of their face . The army as it stands is forbidden to be part of. They fall under the categories of meisis and meidiach. Every aveirah in the torah is being transgressed in the army which makes it Y’horog v’al yavor. They are guided by left wing morals. They punish the good people for mistreating terrorists. They put their people in danger for the sake of saving “civilians” while causing thousand of orphans, widows permanently wounded permanently mentally unstable solders.
    If anyone says otherwise, they are either biased, naive, or in denial because it doesn’t fit the narrativez.
    If you are thinking objectively, you need to make up your mind. Either its all guided by shulchan aruch or its structured like all other western countries’ armies. (do your research) Which ever way, it won’t look like the Israeli army.

17. lbj: The schnorrers are choosing not to stand with their people in their hour of agony, and they are hiding behind religion to do so. I knew someone was going to bring up the Levi’im issue when I wrote my comment, but that issue is a nonstarter as most of the schnorrers are not from Shevet Levi. Further, as so-called Torah scholars and sinless individuals they are required by the Torah to go to war on behalf of their brethren.