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September 20, 2024 10:47 am at 10:47 am #2316801takahmamashParticipant
Is there an actual reason, or is this just another way for kashrut agencies to extract more money from the public?
September 21, 2024 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #2317015akupermaParticipantWho is giving a hecksher to raw chicken eggs?
Unlike milk (in some places, non-kosher milk is sold commercially), there are no non-kosher animals whose eggs are commercially available, or are customarily eaten by humans.
September 21, 2024 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #2317016ShazsheriParticipantAccording to the Torah, regular ol’ chicken eggs don’t need a hashgacha.
According to *daas* torah, eggs do need a hashgacha.
So it depends which religion you buy into. I personally lean towards the former. But then again, that’s just personal preference.
September 21, 2024 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #2317022RedlegParticipantGood question. I am unaware of any commonly eaten eggs that come from non-kosher birds. A corollary is the issue of gevinas Akum. The kashrus issue with cheese is the coagulant used. Chalav akum is not an issue because cheese can only be made from the milk of kosher animals.
September 21, 2024 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #2317025RockyParticipantThe same reason why water has a hechsher. It does not need it but if someone feels it will sell more they pay for it.. What gets really meshuga is when these types of products have multiple hechsherim. Is there really anyone out there that says I don’t trust that guy for a a hechsher on my seltzer but him….
It all comes down to marketing
September 21, 2024 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #2317162GadolhadorahParticipantGiven what we’ve seen this week regarding what can be hidden in a pager, who knows what might have been put inside an egg. You need to find a good chassideshe hashgacha with the requisite expertise in hun hoyzen and avionics.
September 21, 2024 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #2317210☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWho says they do?
September 22, 2024 8:47 am at 8:47 am #2317320ujmParticipantSome people here have a chip on their shoulder requiring them to find fault with anyone too religious for their likings.
September 22, 2024 8:47 am at 8:47 am #2317323KuvultParticipantMy Ruv (& noted Posek) has been having a very difficult time with this issue. After much research & discussion with other major Poskin he made a compromise ruling.
Men in our Shul that eat eggs without a Hashgacha may still be given Aliyah’s but the Tzibur should not answer Amen to his Brochos.September 22, 2024 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #2317344ivoryParticipantI might be mistaken, but is there a possibility of eggs being sold from non mesorah chickens?
September 22, 2024 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #2317369akupermaParticipantWho is selling raw chicken eggs with a hecksher? What company is paying for such a hecksher?
If some “dairy” company has a contract with a hecksher that all their products get the hecksher, the eggs frequently sold by that dairy company would technically get a hecksher, but the marginal cost of that hecksher would be de minimis (the fee for the hecksher would be on products that require supervision). Processed food such as powdered eggs need a hecksher but the discussion is over raw chicken eggs sold with unbroken shells.
Non-chicken eggs that occasionally get sold commercially, which is rare, are from kosher birds such as turkey and duck. Almost all eggs sold anywhere are from chickens, largely since chickens have been genetically modified to produce eggs roughly once a day and even when they are not fertilized.
September 22, 2024 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #2317373☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSome people here have a chip on their shoulder requiring them to find fault with anyone too religious for their likings.
Hard to disagree when someone makes an issue out of a non-issue
September 22, 2024 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #2317450DaMosheParticipantAccording to the CRC, they don’t need a hechsher, as long as they’re in the shell. If you’re buying liquid eggs (and obviously cooked eggs!), it does need a hechsher.
September 22, 2024 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #2317454GadolHadofiParticipantJoseph,
While laughably extreme positions are the cornerstone of your made-up NK religion, for true Jews, “Frum is a Galach, Ehrlich is a Yid”.
The huge flaw on your shoulder requires you to find fault with anyone not pledging allegiance to your myopic outlook.
September 22, 2024 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #2317462Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI think hashgaha on beitzim is definitely in order right now, I heard three are counterfeit ones coming from lebanon.
September 22, 2024 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #2317486ipchamistabraParticipantNot too long ago, no one, anywhere, required a hechsher on eggs. However, recently, questions have been asked about the lineages of hens used to commercially produce eggs. Whether many of these suspicions are well-founded or not, I have my doubts. But there are also doubts about whether forbidden species have been interbred into otherwise kosher poultry – again, a somewhat contentious subject if it’s at all possible. But some support this claim through genetics. That’s why Orthodox hasgochos require hechsher for both live poultry and eggs. Those who don’t identify with those hashgochos, or the Rabbonim standing behind them will probably spurn these new chumros, like their forebears spurned chumros like a hechsher on milk and bread etc.
WRT water. some companies transport water in tankers, which are regularly used to transport other liquids, sometimes not kosher. Water bottled at source with dedicated machinery, does not really require a hechsher – save to state that it is bottled at source.September 22, 2024 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #2317562akupermaParticipantNo one has ever bred a chicken with a different bird. The genetic engineering of chickens, which had already taken place by the periods referred to in the Talmuds, was done through natural means (preferring those that lay eggs even when infertile, and eating the rest).
Please list the Hechksherim giving heckshers to unprocessed chicken eggs, and the companies producing them. I can’t seem to find them in any kashrus guides, leading me to think discussion is a HOAX (probably be a non-frum Jews trying to annoy us).
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