The Halichos Olam Beis Din has instructed Aaron Ramati to leave Yerushalayim within 30 days. Ramati, the manager of Midrashah Be’er Miriam, has faced serious charges over recent years. The Midrashah is located on Shaul HaMelech Street in the Sanhedria neighborhood of Yerushalayim. Ramati has been the target of very serious allegations in recent years leading to the beis din’s decision to leave the city within 30 days.
The beis din, which was established by Maran HaGaon HaRav Ovadia Yosef ZT”L, two months ago rendered its decision against Ramati. This was based on witness testimony but Ramati ignores the decision and remains in contact with the girls. He was subsequently summoned to the beis din a number of times but failed to appear.
The beis din forbade Ramati to have any contact with the girls, including phone or in writing. He was also distanced from the Midrashah, instructed to to have any connection with the institution.
Av Beis Din HaGaon Rav Baruch Shraga, Dayanim Rav Yitzchak Cohen and Rav Shmuel Pinchasi, rav of the Shmuel HaNavi neighborhood signed the beis din’s letter.
A few years ago Maran HaGaon HaRav Yosef Sholom Elyashiv ZT”L, Maran HaGaon HaRav Ovadia Yosef ZT”L, Maran HaGaon HaRav Aaron Yehuda Leib Shteinman Shlita, HaGaon HaRav Chaim Kanievsky Shlita and others signed an extremely harsh letter against Ramati.
(YWN – Israel Desk, Jerusalem)
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HUH?!! What is this about? What seminar is this? for what ages? etc..
In most cases without legal backing, a beis din’s decision can not and will not be upheld. That is a major problem of today.
“A few years ago Maran HaGaon HaRav Yosef Sholom Elyashiv ZT”L, Maran HaGaon HaRav Ovadia Yosef ZT”L, Maran HaGaon HaRav Aaron Yehuda Leib Shteinman Shlita, HaGaon HaRav Chaim Kanievsky Shlita and others signed an extremely harsh letter against Ramati.”
Then why was he still at the girls’ midrasha for the last few years?
Call the Israeli Police. This is not an issue for a Beis Din which Ramati has spat all over.
So some crazy dude decided to open a cult / Midrasha for girls over 18, and the guy specifically said that today’s Rabbis are just politicians and not Da’at Torah. So why would anyone like that ever listen anything that a beit din says? Do the evil Sikrikim listen to anyone to stop the extortion of businesses in Meah Shearim? Has Lev Tahor stopped their craziness after all the Rabbanim against them?
Although be that as it may, the girls there come by their own free will. If they are stupid enough to join a cult, that is their problem. Also, you can make a beit din of whoever you want, but you can’t force someone off of their property. It’s a free country.
So this mister Ramati ignores the Gedolim, not just one Gadol but almost a minjan of Gedolim, why are is not the police called in order to protect the girls?
There are 2 problems with this article. One is the result of the editors’ failure to understand the importance of antecedents, but the other is a more general failure of the authors to make up their minds about loshon hora.
The article says that serious charges have been alleged against Mr. Ramati, and that a beis din has ordered him to get out of town (i.e., Jerusalem) in 30 days. There is then a reference to “the girls” but no explanation of who the girls are or why “the girls” are a part of the story. “The girls” needs an antecedent to identify them.
The article utterly fails to identify the allegations against Mr. Ramati, notwithstanding that a beis din has determined that he must get out of town. Do the YWN editors want us to make guesses about the allegations? Some of us will underestimate the seriousness of the allegations that led to the decision of the beis din, and others will assume something far worse than was the beis din actually determined. This is unfair to Mr. Ramati, to the beis din, and to YWN’s readers.
Somewhere in the background, I guess the YWN editors are tiptoeing around the issue of loshon hora. But a beis din has determined – probably very reliably – that Mr. Ramati has to get out of town. It would be helpful to your readers, to the beis din, and maybe even to Mr. Ramati, if you report the findings of the beis din. I am not an expert on loshon hora, but I believe that the public should be warned about a man who got himself ordered out of town by a beis din, and your report does not adequately warn your readers.
nfgo3, Ramati started a girls school which allegedly acted like a cult. He would be overly strict with certain issues, and quite often would try to convince the girls not to get married. All the girls were over 18, so there was nothing illegal about it. But from what I read, it was definitely a cult.
How did Rav Ovadiah establish a bet din two months ago?
This case had already been put to a bet din over a year ago and they allowed Rav Ramati to continue as did Rav David Abuchatzeira.
I visited my niece twice without warning and found the door open and girls, all over the age of 21, coming and going at will. Several had mobile phones!
Former Shas me Ze’ev Nissim said that they are not allowed to get married but there have been 2 weddings this year!
I know it hurts irreligious parents when they children become religious but lets not get it out of proportion. The police found nothing wrong. The neighbours are supportive and the girls are happy and not stupid.
Somebody tell Mrs Vaknin that calling her daughter, a former ranking officer in the border police, a liar is not a sign of love. Neither is trying to set light to the fence!