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  • #2305799
    ☕️coffee addict
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    A different Jewish news website has a button for comments that says “Lashon Hara/ Hate Speech” and if you think it could be that then you flag it and it can be looked at (also upvotes)

    Why can’t Yeshiva World have that?

    I understand that the other website doesn’t have the CR but still….

    #2306015
    Toi
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    You’re still here?

    #2306046
    ujm
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    WB Toi!

    #2306038
    Gadolhadorah
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    One person’s truth is another person’s lashon harah. The editors would need to a whole bunch of full time “mashgichim” to assist the Mods in evaluating what qualifies as lashon harah versus plain old hate speech (e.g. “all yiden who either vote for Dems or believe the Rebbe is Mashiach are mamash menuvalim, apikorsim, etc.”, )

    #2306099

    We can have a CR zabla beis din – take one leftwing and one rightwing poster and let them choose the third and they can vote on whether a post qualifies as LH.

    #2306055
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Toi,

    Why wouldn’t I?

    #2306056
    ujm
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    CA: By time you hit the Loshon Hora button, you were already oiver the issur.

    #2306058
    ujm
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    Dorah: Do you also go around saying that one man’s porn is another man’s art? And then insist on no “censorship” of such “art”?

    #2306060
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Well it seems it works in the other website

    #2306081
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    If there is going to be a new button to report Lashon HaRa,
    then there should also be a 2nd button to report laitzanus,
    a 3rd button to report Nivul Pen,
    a 4th button to report Onaas Devarim,
    a 5th button to report sheker,
    and a 6th button to report Cefirah.

    #2306140
    nishtdayngesheft
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    GH

    “ One person’s truth is another person’s lashon harah. ”.

    Someone is really showing a distinct lack of halachic understanding here.

    #2306224
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Square root,

    I love that way of thinking

    People call it “all or nothing”

    Let’s use it in other things too

    Kitniyos should include potatoes
    Muktzeh should include everything except for ones siddur, Tallis, and cutlery (I know it started off like that actually)
    We can other examples too!

    #2306297
    Gadolhadorah
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    Obviously, a “true” statement can also be lashoh harah but there are also exceptions where factual statements are permitted. The Mods seem to be able to make those distinctions w/o adding a link on each posting so that all the armchair CR poskim can demand the removal of another posting that offends them.

    #2306349
    Gadolhadorah
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    Square Root: What about a button to object to anonymous and chronic button pushing by other CR posters along with a button to seek appellate review of the Mods decision to edit or delete a post (sort of like the NFL rules which allow a team to object to a call by an official on the field).

    #2308100
    Toi
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    I’m not back, just checking in. Thanks for the welcome 🙂

    #2309270
    Redleg
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    As alluded to above, there are notable exceptions to what constitutes lashon hara. For instance, common knowledge is not included in the ban, as is information for tachlis. Telling a neighbor who is considering a home remodeling that contractor X did a poor job for you or ripped you off seems okay. Also telling someone that Harvey Weinstein is a menuval is not a chiddush.

    #2315330
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Chayai Adam wanted to asser potatoes as kitnoyos, so he was told that you are taking away the chayai adam.

    #2315512
    commonsaychel
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    “If there is going to be a new button to report Lashon HaRa,
    then there should also be a 2nd button to report laitzanus,
    a 3rd button to report Nivul Pen,
    a 4th button to report Onaas Devarim,
    a 5th button to report sheker,
    and a 6th button to report Cefirah.”

    and a 7th button to report cut and paste ramblings

    opps I forgot that is very obvious

    #2315553
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Commonsaychel,

    You know it is Elul and you just bumped this thread for THAT?!?

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